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Can there be references to "moral turpitude put in a contract with Tyreek?

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Can there be references to "moral turpitude put in a contract with Tyreek?

I mentioned this in an earlier post, then I just saw this in an article about the Cleveland Browns and their QB Watson.

"On Monday, a new lawsuit was filed against Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson. For Browns fans who have concluded that Watson isn’t the answer, the question becomes whether the new allegations could allow the Browns to escape the balance of the five-year, fully-guaranteed deal.

The short answer is, “Maybe.”

The longer answer comes from Watson’s contract. PFT has obtained a copy of it. The key provision is paragraph 42.

Here’s the full language of paragraph 42: “Player hereby represents and warrants (except as otherwise disclosed to club in writing), as of the date hereof, that (1) Player has not been charged with, indicted for, convicted of or pled nolo contendre to any felony and/or misdemeanor involving fraud or moral turpitude, (ii) Player has not engaged in conduct which could subject him to a charge, indictment or conviction of any such offense, and (iii) no circumstances exist that would prevent Player’s continuing availability to the Club for duration of this Contract.”

Did Watson disclose this specific potential claim to the Browns in writing before he signed the contract? That’s the key question. If he did, the lawsuit can’t activate paragraph 42. If he didn’t, things get potentially complicated."

It is clear to me that this may become one of the conditions included with any new or extended contract that the Dolphins might give Mr. Hill.
 
It's a bit late. Isn't he already signed? But yes, I remember some language regarding your reference for some other players outside of this organization, but I think the players' association frowns upon it. I am always in favor of incentive-laden contracts which would negate some $$$ for suspensions but moral turpitude would be very subjective imo.
 
It's a bit late. Isn't he already signed? But yes, I remember some language regarding your reference for some other players outside of this organization, but I think the players' association frowns upon it. I am always in favor of incentive-laden contracts which would negate some $$$ for suspensions but moral turpitude would be very subjective imo.

True.

My point was to show there are certain actions that can be included in a contract to limit certain off-field behaviors that could be detrimental to the team. "Moral Turpitude" clauses have been around a long time.

I remember a Steelers QB - Rothlisberger - was injured in a motorcycle accident and lost some playing time. His next contract had a clause that prohibited him from riding a motorcycle while he was under contract to the Steelers.

So, clauses like that can, and do, appear in some of these big NFL contracts.
 
They can try, whether or not he signs it is another story.

Absolutely.

By the way, Rothlisberger did sign that next contract with the specific exclusion of his riding a motorcycle. I bet the amount of money had something to do with it. - LOL
 
Can there be references to "moral turpitude put in a contract with Tyreek?

I mentioned this in an earlier post, then I just saw this in an article about the Cleveland Browns and their QB Watson.

"On Monday, a new lawsuit was filed against Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson. For Browns fans who have concluded that Watson isn’t the answer, the question becomes whether the new allegations could allow the Browns to escape the balance of the five-year, fully-guaranteed deal.

The short answer is, “Maybe.”

The longer answer comes from Watson’s contract. PFT has obtained a copy of it. The key provision is paragraph 42.

Here’s the full language of paragraph 42: “Player hereby represents and warrants (except as otherwise disclosed to club in writing), as of the date hereof, that (1) Player has not been charged with, indicted for, convicted of or pled nolo contendre to any felony and/or misdemeanor involving fraud or moral turpitude, (ii) Player has not engaged in conduct which could subject him to a charge, indictment or conviction of any such offense, and (iii) no circumstances exist that would prevent Player’s continuing availability to the Club for duration of this Contract.”

Did Watson disclose this specific potential claim to the Browns in writing before he signed the contract? That’s the key question. If he did, the lawsuit can’t activate paragraph 42. If he didn’t, things get potentially complicated."

It is clear to me that this may become one of the conditions included with any new or extended contract that the Dolphins might give Mr. Hill.
Ummmmm I’m not sure why you would when Tyreek hasn’t done anything illegal.
 
What kind of moral turpitude are we talking about? Beating your wife? Slapping a dude at a Marina?

Or getting detained by some middle school dropout cops that aren't qualified to shovel **** at a zoo.
I think he was referencing the total lack of respect that Mr Hill gave to the policeman. Mr. Hill set the tone for that interaction!! Not the other way around.
 
Ummmmm I’m not sure why you would when Tyreek hasn’t done anything illegal.
So cops in Miami just pull people over willy-nilly for nothing. He did something to get yanked and then acted like he was above the law with his lack of respect to the cop and not following directives!!! How about - "Good morning officer, what can i help you with today", instead of "Dont knock on my window like that". And when the cops said roll your window down, you do it!!! I have had multiple run-ins with cops and in my experience things go much more smooth when you offer sugar instead of vinegar!! But this is a trend for this guy, and I am extremely disappointed in both the Dolphins and McDaniel for their lack of support for law and order. Done buying gear until Mr Disrespect stops wearing a Dolphins uni! but the DEI crowd will support this fool that has been a menace since college, and probably long before that.
 
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So cops in Miami just pull people over willy-nilly. He did something to get yanked and then acted like he was above the law with his lack of respect to the cop and not following directives!!!
tyreek did show a lack of respect. The cops showed a lack of ability to deescalate the situation. In fact a few of them wanted to prove they were tougher than hill and escalated the situation. I know I get disrespect from my students all the time and I have to manage my ego and deescalate the situation. That is what being a professional is about. If this was really a threatening situation I could understand their motives, but
they knew it was Hill and there was no danger with him pulling into the stadium on a gameday.
 
What kind of moral turpitude are we talking about? Beating your wife? Slapping a dude at a Marina?

Or getting detained by some middle school dropout cops that aren't qualified to shovel **** at a zoo.
This just seems like an unfair knee-jerk response, dude.

I would like to see a few hundred hours of the zoo shoveling from at least one of them before making a judgement call like that
 
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