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Can't believe people blaming tannehill

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The offensive line was a complete joke today., and has sucked the last month. What happens every time we try play action? He's pressured as soon as he fakes the handoff. We literally can't run any play action with this oline. Do you ever see him sit back with time to throw? It never happens. You see manning and flacco and Big Ben and romo with all day to throw, our guy has to get the ball out in 2 seconds or he's got guys in his face.

3 drops in the 1st half that were right in guys hands. Our "number 1" receiver who gives up on balls in the end zone. Has tannehill had 1 receiver since he's been here that he can throw the ball up to and have his guy actually fight and jump to catch it?

You need time in the pocket to throw deep. You need time in the pocket for guys to get open. You need time in the pocket to go through your progressions. You need confidence in your linemen to protect you so you don't panic after 2 seconds and nobody is open.

Tannehill is is the least of my worries right now. We got our qb, he just needs a new coach and guys that will protect him and guys that will fight to catch the ball for him.
 
finomenal said:
And when crunch time came, he was still dinking and dunking.
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Unless you think the more sound strategy was to get sacked 4 straight times due to Dallas Thomas doing the matador with Dumervil, that's about all he could do in crunch time.

Really hard to evaluate RT with the level of OL and WR he has been surrounded with during his career. It's pretty much been awful WR + serviceable OL, vice versa, or both awful...
 
brandon albert injury set us back quite aways. dallas thomas has no business being on this roster.

period.
 
SkapePhin said:
Unless you think the more sound strategy was to get sacked 4 straight times due to Dallas Thomas doing the matador with Dumervil, that's about all he could do in crunch time.

Really hard to evaluate RT with the level of OL and WR he has been surrounded with during his career. It's pretty much been awful WR + serviceable OL, vice versa, or both awful...
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He was throwing the ball the same way in other games when he got protection too. It's what he does.
 
It's the gambler's mentality and here's what I mean by that.

A gambler hits $50 but thinks to himself that $100 sounds a lot better so he lays it all down on black. Red hits and he loses the $50 and walks home with empty pockets.

Seems like every Dolphins fan is never happy with what they have and always think that the next best thing is always around the corner. When the next best thing never shows, they cry and whine wondering why this is what constantly happens. People want consistency but demand change at every corner.

Tannehill has still produced a 90+ PR for the year, a mid 60's Completion %, and a greater TD/INT than 2:1.

People will tell you he dinks and dunk and can't complete a pass past 5 yards yet never mention anything that he does pass over 10 yards for. Everyone has already forgotten about the pass to Wallace that got called back. The pass was still made whether it counted or not. Everyone who is not educated on the game of football will always blame the QB and think the deep ball is just something you throw in the air and it will all work out. It's only in the QB's control and he is the one to reap the blame for not having success.

I'm sick of it all. Everyone loves the breeze rolling off that revolving door except a select few it seems
 
finomenal said:
And when crunch time came, he was still dinking and dunking.
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Except for the last 4th down play when HE SHOULD HAVE DINKED AND DUNKED and had THREE OPEN GUYS AT THE 1st DOWN MARKER and then decided to badly try to be Aaron Rodgers & throw a long pass 5 yds over the head of the receiver and out of bounds. He HAD the 1st down to any of those guys short but he chose to air it out......this shows 1) he's still making bad decisions & 2) he still either can't or refuses to see the whole field.

I was actually shocked that he went long since pretty much his whole career here he dumps it off to the under/short guy.....figures......when he should do a short dump off he goes long. Also.....that "long" throw was way off......maybe the coaches know more than we think and are restricting Tannehill from throwing long because he's horrible at it.
 
Today's loss goes on the WRs (critical drops) and the O-line (specifically Dallas Thomas). Wallace didn't even try for that catch in the endzone. The defense forced 3 straight 3 and outs to start the game and got a redzone takeaway and the offense only had 10 pts to show for it. The defense was going to break eventually.
 
I think people need to understand Tannehill doesn't call the plays. He has good vision, goes through his progressions well, has even been doing well at "vet" type stuff like hard counts, pump fakes, looking receivers off, etc. He is doing everything he is asked very well. I'm not really sure how we can say at this point his long ball is bad because (a) they never throw it (b) He doesn't have time to do it (c) Wallace just isn't a very good Wide Receiver and doesn't run route that are QB Friendly (Examples stays to close to the sidelines on deep routes and doesn't elevate worth a ****).

All that being said The Dolphins need to do something, get another player on the deep routes, something.

additionally it's so f*cking aggravating to see our mobile QB get stuck in a collapsing pocket time after time and the coaches not realizing he needs to be on the move.
 
Tannehill's biggest flaw, is the inability to throw the deep ball. Teams can defend him by taking away underneath routes, even with no secondary today, the ravens did that. The sacks, I blame on the coaching staff and mainly philbin. You see Dallas Thomas beat like a drum, time after time after time, WHY NOT TRY SOMEONE ELSE? Philbin, are you THAT stupid? You have already answered without responding. How can you not see a problem that is obvious to so many of us?

I don't Tannehill bash, I like him. He is tough and plays his heart out. To win and make it to the playoffs, you need a quarterback that can hit a completion over 20 yards. I would rather try and find a qb that can do that, even though I do like Tannehill, I aint blind. The deep pass aint something, that after 6 years, you finally develop, you can, or you can't. I think he can't.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
Today's loss goes on the WRs (critical drops) and the O-line (specifically Dallas Thomas). Wallace didn't even try for that catch in the endzone. The defense forced 3 straight 3 and outs to start the game and got a redzone takeaway and the offense only had 10 pts to show for it. The defense was going to break eventually.
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Give it a rest, the defense has given up 150+ yards rushing the last 3 games. Yes, they forced 3 straight 3 and outs and then the good team adjusted. The bad one didn't and got run over drive after drive after drive. How many 150+ yard rushing games does the defense have to give up before we start questioning them?
 
Klenton66 said:
I would rather try and find a qb that can do that, even though I do like Tannehill, I aint blind. The deep pass aint something, that after 6 years, you finally develop, you can, or you can't. I think he can't.
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Thanks for proving my theory...
 
SSnowman said:
Give it a rest, the defense has given up 150+ yards rushing the last 3 games. Yes, they forced 3 straight 3 and outs and then the good team adjusted. The bad one didn't and got run over drive after drive after drive. How many 150+ yard rushing games does the defense have to give up before we start questioning them?
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most of those rushing yards allowed came in the 4th qtr. Baltimore only had 14 pts after 3 qtrs. Miami still only had 10 pts after 3 qtrs. Offense did nothing to help the defense out. Didn't even take advantage of that Flacco int. Then floundered that 1st and goal to settle for a FG.
 
The reason why people often blame Tannehill or blame him first is because the QB is to be one of the pinnacles of your team, the guy at the top of the hill. This is ever more true in the post-2003 NFL. When he plays well, he elevates the rest of the team with him. When he does not, as they say, sh*t flows down hill. When you have consecutive drives where you don't score, those types of drives take their toll on the defense, evermore so if they are short. While the O-line and D Thomas deserve blame, why doesn't Tannehill ever try and compensate or work around this problem during the game or even from game-to-game? This is one of the reasons why analysts and others say that Tannehill is too robotic. It seems as though for Tannehill to get better everyone else around him must get better (the O-line, WRs, etc), but not Tannehill himself. He doesn't make anyone better, he relies on others to make him better.
 
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