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ESPN told us that we were tanking for a draft pick.... think about that they told us we gave away several first round picks (Tannehill, Tunsil, Fitzpatrick) in one off season to get one first round pick (Tua).

do you really believe that that is a model that works??

This season was more about getting away from overrated players, fixing the salary cap, stacking draft picks, and finding 10-15 players on the back half of our roster than it was about picking in the first round. We found a few starters in undrafted, late round draft picks, or castoffs from other teams. We saw another former first round pick had some ability on our own roster... many were ready to part ways with Parker. We got rid of Kenyon Drake, a player that has one great Dolphins moment in the Miami Miracle and in two seasons he had 100+ yards rushing in two games.

many could argue that we failed to tank. But what if Tanking was just ESPNs plan for us. If our plan was to reset the roster, stack draft picks and find a few starters and a lot of depth we nailed it.

If this is the path they are on we should be a 7 win team next year and if we draft a QB they should watch Fitzpatrick for a season. This path is the path of Building slow, not the path of getting lucky with a first round draft pick becoming the next Dan Marino
 
I don't watch or listen to anything ESPN says.

Although the tank thing was true for awhile. This team was setup to fail..not in a fail that equals 0-16. But a fail in terms of no squeaking out 8 wins for no reason with guys not in the plans..

Tunsil and Minkah were apart of the future until Houston gave us a qb trade package and Minkah wanted out. Miami couldn't pass on Houstons offer. Once in a lifetime offer for a player much less a LT. Minkah wanted out after being played in spots he didn't want and that's more than fine. Miami got a first round pick for the kid. He's a fantastic player that's gonna be great for years to come.
 
These tank predictions or accusations were simply just opinions. It is literally impossible to plan a tank for a #1 pick in the NFL because you will never get the players or coaches on board. All of these guys want to make money, and they arent getting that next big contract by playing bad and losing.
 
andyahs said:
Someone listened to ESPN?
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I haven't given them a click, or view in several years now.

There was a time when Sunday morning was never miss, regularly watched PTI and the daily recap shows.

The day they started injecting politics and politically correctness above reporting facts, and unbiased reporting, i left, and never looked back.
 
The Tank Mantra was pushed by the media as a narrative to talk down on the franchise. I believe the 0-7 start was due more to the roster turnover the week before the season started. The newer players needed time to adjust, it was almost if training camp started over for them. Once they got their feet under them, things began to improve a lot. I only wish they would have settled on the Offensive Line, it seemed like a new starting 5 was on the field each week. My view became positive about the coaching staff, as I began to see how hard the players played each week. These kids were running through walls for Flores. The entire team came together out of the break. My only disappointments, were not seeing Rosen develop more during his time as a starter and the constant injury situation. But a positive season, non the less, in spite of the losing.
 
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I haven't given them a click, or view in several years now.

There was a time when Sunday morning was never miss, regularly watched PTI and the daily recap shows.

The day they started injecting politics and politically correctness above reporting facts, and unbiased reporting, i left, and never looked back.
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Espn is literally only good for live sports now. Everything else is a joke. Pre game shows, post game junk. Charging for NFL Primetime. It’s a shame nothing gets full highlights anymore because they’re too busy turning everything into a celebrity event.
 
13finfan4ever said:
ESPN told us that we were tanking for a draft pick.... think about that they told us we gave away several first round picks (Tannehill, Tunsil, Fitzpatrick) in one off season to get one first round pick (Tua).

do you really believe that that is a model that works??

This season was more about getting away from overrated players, fixing the salary cap, stacking draft picks, and finding 10-15 players on the back half of our roster than it was about picking in the first round. We found a few starters in undrafted, late round draft picks, or castoffs from other teams. We saw another former first round pick had some ability on our own roster... many were ready to part ways with Parker. We got rid of Kenyon Drake, a player that has one great Dolphins moment in the Miami Miracle and in two seasons he had 100+ yards rushing in two games.

many could argue that we failed to tank. But what if Tanking was just ESPNs plan for us. If our plan was to reset the roster, stack draft picks and find a few starters and a lot of depth we nailed it.

If this is the path they are on we should be a 7 win team next year and if we draft a QB they should watch Fitzpatrick for a season. This path is the path of Building slow, not the path of getting lucky with a first round draft pick becoming the next Dan Marino
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My POV never changed because I never saw an organization set on tanking.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
Espn is literally only good for live sports now. Everything else is a joke. Pre game shows, post game junk. Charging for NFL Primetime. It’s a shame nothing gets full highlights anymore because they’re too busy turning everything into a celebrity event.
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The highlights fell apart because we can access them in an instant with social media. As for the network itself...

- too many talk shows in the line up all day. No more NFL films or creative programming.

- Not a ton of actual discussions on games. Skip through breakdowns in order to create controversy or create narratives.

- Very biased towards larger/popular teams. Tire of hearing about the cowboys every single week. Even as a Lakers fan I find it annoying how much we get talked about

- They let people like Mike tirico walk who had a real passion for announcing. The network has lost a lot of personality in other areas in order to keep Stephen a and other contracts around

Just a very bland network now
 
Miami was competing from the Washington game on. Had late leads against Pittsburgh and Buffalo and if not for a bad call sweeps the Jets.

That was very satisfying to me after an historically bad start. I wasn't sure this team would win a game.

Taking that next step is always a challenge. The Dolphins rode with Tannehill for seven years, and could easily find themselves in a similar position. Absolutely have to get the right quarterback.

I feel extremely encouraged by Flores.
 
ESPN? Really???? Never watch em. I used to though until I realized all these ex players turned analysts don’t really watch the games or really know about the teams they are talking about on a weekly basis. All they do is read a blurb from a local beat writer and regurgitate it on the air on sundays. Worse one at it was Marshall Faulk.

Caught him at Dolphin stadium on a Thursday night a few years ago on the set outside while no one was sitting there but him. I went up to him and picked his brain on purpose and he was clueless. My reaction to him pretty much told him so. He was clearly embarrassed as I walked away. Something I just felt I had to do. What a fraud most of those guys are. At the time I don’t think Faulk worked for espn, but it proved something just the same, most of those guys took those cushy jobs and just loafed their way through on a weekly basis
 
13finfan4ever said:
ESPN told us that we were tanking for a draft pick.... think about that they told us we gave away several first round picks (Tannehill, Tunsil, Fitzpatrick) in one off season to get one first round pick (Tua).

do you really believe that that is a model that works??

This season was more about getting away from overrated players, fixing the salary cap, stacking draft picks, and finding 10-15 players on the back half of our roster than it was about picking in the first round. We found a few starters in undrafted, late round draft picks, or castoffs from other teams. We saw another former first round pick had some ability on our own roster... many were ready to part ways with Parker. We got rid of Kenyon Drake, a player that has one great Dolphins moment in the Miami Miracle and in two seasons he had 100+ yards rushing in two games.

many could argue that we failed to tank. But what if Tanking was just ESPNs plan for us. If our plan was to reset the roster, stack draft picks and find a few starters and a lot of depth we nailed it.

If this is the path they are on we should be a 7 win team next year and if we draft a QB they should watch Fitzpatrick for a season. This path is the path of Building slow, not the path of getting lucky with a first round draft pick becoming the next Dan Marino
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100 million plus a large draft haul - Miami how 10-6 or 11-5 and gets hot towards the back half of the season when the team gets hot.
Flores has The King energy.

he knows how to give blessings and to do your curse in action - kick a guy out.

Then everyone in the room follows The Kings direction - his vision of the realm.

ESPN were flat footed a holes in their predictions because they act like the scraping down of the roster is in a vacuum - they don’t look at context nor the people behind the decisions.

that’s fine Miami can and likely will be a contender for years to come now - starting next season - which for Dolphin fans is now!
 
I believe the Dolphins went into the 2019 season with the idea that they needed to get rid of a lot of the bloated salaries they had with their veteran players who never helped them get above mediocre. They knew that getting rid of these players wold lead to them having to rely on younger players and that would likely mean they would lose a lot of games during the season.

Their goal was always to get younger and build for the future. No one in the Dolphins organization ever said anything about tanking the season. This term was just something made up by those who wanted the Dolphins to get the first pick in the draft so the team could have the opportunity to draft Tua. The media picked up on the idea of the Dolphins tanking the season simply because the Dolphins traded two of their best players just before the season started and how badly the team played early in the season.

I never wanted or expected the Dolphins to go winless during the season and I have no problem with them having the 5th pick in the draft instead of the first pick. Even though I would loved for them to be able to draft Burrow.

While I was happy to see the development of many of the young players on the roster. My biggest gripe with the season was the fact they ended up having to use a 37 year old career backup as their starting QB for the majority of the season. I was hoping that Rosen would develop more as the season went along but since he didn’t, the Dolphins will now have to use another season to develop Rosen or any QB they may take in the draft.

I expect next year will be another year when the Dolphins win 5-6 games and end up with another draft pick in the top 12 in 2021. This is going to be a rebuild which will take 3-4 years and I think it will be at least 2022 before this team will be contending for a playoff spot.
 
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