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I'm sold on Smith above Chase for these reasons after watching the tape -

Chase seems to have a lazy streak.

1. Chase takes plays off, seems highly disengaged at times, especially when asked to contribute in other ways > eg. blocking. I've seen multiple plays where Chase is literally standing in the middle of the field watching his teammates struggle to get yards, he is showing unwillingness to actively engage on the play. If the play comes very close to where he is standing, and it's obvious that he's doing nothing, he will almost trot over and go through the motions of throwing a very half-hearted whiff block. Almost so as to not get noticed

2. Chase took 2020 off. 2018-19 highlights were very, very good....and he knew they were good enough to rate him highly in the 2021 draft. There was no reason to play in the 2020 season, UNLESS you were itching to compete and loved the game. I question his unselfishness and commitment to the team

3. Smith has high character that has never been questioned. He showed up in 2020 when he really didn't have to. He showed up (though didn't play > thumb) at the Senior Bowl event when he really didn't have to. He wants to compete, he wants to play

4. Smith. The HIPS. I haven't seen anything like this in a long, long time. His routes are disciplined and ultra-crisp due to his uncanny ability to drop his hips and change direction without any loss of speed. Long strides to eat up open space and then WHAM, a 30-degree change of direction at full speed. I'm not sure how a corner defends against that, even with safety help

So, for me, Smith wins the physicality comparison for the superior route-running ability and speed, even though with a lighter frame (easily up to 185-190 once the weight room pros get their hands on him). Smith also has the character I want in the locker room.

Chase = Bo Callahan isn't really a fair statement, but Chase = Bo Callahan (Lite) may be.

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Very good points, smith seems like he is willing to be a workhorse. I haven’t watched enough of Chase to verify what you said but that is very concerning.
 
It would be easier to make a comparison in between Smith, and Chase than maybe any other receiver prospect. Chase is a more physical receiver. Smith has that break away speed, but he also is able to catch tough passes. Can use his physical ability, arms, and also make catches over defenders, specially in single coverage. Chase does a good job using his body to gain extra yardage after the catch against strong defensive backs. That is something smith won't be able to do easily.
 
juniorseau55 said:
It would be easier to make a comparison in between Smith, and Chase than maybe any other receiver prospect. Chase is a more physical receiver. Smith has that break away speed, but he also is able to catch tough passes. Can use his physical ability, arms, and also make catches over defenders, specially in single coverage. Chase does a good job using his body to gain extra yardage after the catch against strong defensive backs. That is something smith won't be able to do easily.
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Agreed that Chase is often seen to stick his arm out so as to put the DB off his stride and to create separation.
Smith uses his speed and change of direction to create space.

For me, I prefer that Tua have open windows. And this means Smith.

The "throw it up and let your receiver fight for the ball" approach we used in 2020 was pure sh*te but necessary because our receivers could not create true separation.
 
This is more comparable. These two are more likely to be used as boundary’s at the next level. Not exclusively mind you but primary
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
Agreed that Chase is often seen to stick his arm out so as to put the DB off his stride and to create separation.
Smith uses his speed and change of direction to create space.

For me, I prefer that Tua have open windows. And this means Smith.

The "throw it up and let your receiver fight for the ball" approach we used in 2020 was pure sh*te but necessary because our receivers could not create true separation.
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Smith or Waddle in terms of what they offer. Smith has that nice reach that is useful in the goal line, or catching tough to reach passes. Waddle gives ya that multi-dimension play ability with that wicked acceleration. Insert him in the slot, screens, can take those short passes and turn them into big gains. The last thing we want is for the Patriots to pick Waddle lol. He wasn't a top nation prospect for a reason. He could have gone to any college but ended up going to Alabama.
 

JaMarr Chase

This is a 20 minute breakdown but this guy does an incredible job of showing JaMarr Chase and breaking down his game. This is exactly why I prefer him over Smith. If you have time please watch and comment.
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I found this post by ck very interesting... it makes it feel like Chase tended to beat up on lesser cb’s but when the facing better players he didn’t look quite dominate
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
Agreed that Chase is often seen to stick his arm out so as to put the DB off his stride and to create separation.
Smith uses his speed and change of direction to create space.

For me, I prefer that Tua have open windows. And this means Smith.

The "throw it up and let your receiver fight for the ball" approach we used in 2020 was pure sh*te but necessary because our receivers could not create true separation.
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I mean, we already have a similar player to J. Chase, and that player is Devonte Parker. Except Parker is taller, and bigger but as reliable as a chinese made car jack stand. Assuming Parker can be healthy, putting Chase in there wouldn't really give us another dimension. I know we had a thread the other day about comparing Jakeem Grant to Hill which was an over the mile comparison, but one of the differences in between Grant and Hill is his freak ability to move anywhere in the field and maintain his speed. By the time Grant catches the ball he is basically a statue. That is why he is an all pro punt returner instead of an all pro receiver. Waddle brings that missing element Grant has, and better hands. He is the perfect receiver to insert in the slot.
 
Travis34 said:

JaMarr Chase

This is a 20 minute breakdown but this guy does an incredible job of showing JaMarr Chase and breaking down his game. This is exactly why I prefer him over Smith. If you have time please watch and comment.
finheaven.com finheaven.com

I found this post by ck very interesting... it makes it feel like Chase tended to beat up on lesser cb’s but when the facing better players he didn’t look quite dominate
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Ck parrothead? What happen to him?
 
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