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Chris Grier appreciation thread

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We used to do these when a player or coach moved on so…

Thank you Chris Grier for, err, hmmm, um, sheez, cmon there must be something good to say here…

No? Ok, I guess not. Well then…don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
 
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Lol only 6 replied to this and Ross thought he had a winner the last 10 years. Lol
 
He really helped me appreciate what it was to watch good football.
 
Trades weren't bad at all. Tunsil is obvious but Ramsey for a 4th, Quinn for a 4th ... we typically won in the value department. Chubb was the heartbreaker.

Free agency wasn't terrible either ... Brewer, Seiler, Brooks, et al. The guy couldn't draft so the roster had to be filled out somehow. Did decent with the rejects.
 
He mostly did well in trades. Thats about it.

He never really sold guys at bad value and it’s hard to remember a truly awful trade he made value wise (what he did with the picks is a different conversation)
What the hell are you talking about ???

Chubb?
Ramsey?
Tunsil?
 
He did a great job with Laremy Tunsil 2x. First taking advantage of the slide in the draft because Tunsil's step dad is a terrible person and then trading him for maximum value. But looking at his drafts from 2016 on:

His first three picks in the 2016 draft were fantastic, Laremy, X and then Kenyan Drake. Then it all went downhill, trading a future third and fourth for Leonte Caroo. The reasoning? We were getting comp picks in the third and fourth round the next year so we could trade those future picks this year.

2017 was probably the first red flag glaring warning sign something was wrong. This was a scouting department that identified Charles Harris over TJ Watt. 2017 was an exceptionally weak class, but we came away with absolutely nothing aside from Davon Godchaux.

2018 was the Minkah draft, fine draft pick (we can discuss the positional value of safety but Minkah clearly a top tier safety for a number of years). Similar to the Harris pick, this is a front office that identified TE as a position of need and picked Gesicki over Dallas Goedert.

2019, again weak class and first pick is fine getting Christian Wilkins. Second round, I'm fine with the trade down but it costs us Erik McCoy (who probably would of and should of been the pick at that slot) and we use that 2nd rounder to trade for Josh Rosen who we didn't think was worth moving up 1 slot for the year before. Only team interested in him and we give up a second costing us either McCoy or Metcalf (after the trade down). This is also the Michael Dieter draft which is a long string of absolutely not being able to identify a playable NFL linemen after the second round. Van Ginkel is a homerun pick in the 5th but not enough to save the draft.

2020, there are enough threads on this but not moving up for Tristan Wirfs after the run on tackles starts and having to settle for Austin Jackson (who probably was overdrafted by about 10-15 picks that year).

2021 again move down and not only cost yourself Chase but then pick Waddle over two hall of famers the next three picks. Then you move up for Liam Eichenberg... so many threads on this so not worth rehasing.

2022, this is our all in draft. After years of stockpiling picks we decide that 0 is the appropriate amount going forward.

2023 all in draft, but seriously? Cam Smith in the second? CB is an incredibly difficult position to nail but seriously.

2024, Chop has seriously regressed but looked fine late last year, but he was picked one ahead of Quinyon Mitchell. Patrick Paul looks like a fine late second rounder so not complaining about that one. But then he trades a future third for Jaylen Wright to upgrade the #3 running back. Mind you we still have Chris Brooks who looked pretty good in limited time in this role.

2025, after you laughed about how easy it was to address the interior o-line you draft Jonah who is having a historically bad rookie season? Also, how do you miss on a DT in the first round?
 
He mostly did well in trades. Thats about it.

He never really sold guys at bad value and it’s hard to remember a truly awful trade he made value wise (what he did with the picks is a different conversation)
also Rosen trade was strike 1, & a half for me. I said what would happen when it did, and was proven correct almost instantly.


And I'll add the part I said about the trade. In hindsight(& at the time), trading for a developmental QB was a smart move. The compensation given that he was a failed top 10 pick the yr before was 99% the issue.
 
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