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hey fin fans. coahes are not that stupid. ok, so maybe dave is close, but he's not that stupid. is he?

it has been reported in several south florida media outlets and even nationally in both print and broadcast that dave and the offensive coaching staff are talking about how important it is to run the football, and that they're game planning to do just that against cinncy after their terrible performace against the jets in week 1. that's nice, isn't it? really, it is. but i don't buy it.

first of all, you never talk or even hint about what your game plan is going to be to the media. that is, unless you're trying to throw your opponent's preperation off. remember how it was reported from various "sources close to the dolphins" that feeley would get the start in week 1? well, obviously he didn't.

secondly, our offensive line IS NOT the jets offensive line. we do not knock people off the ball and cannot run on 8 and 9 man fronts. also, don't you think the bengals, knowing wannstedt's tendancies and that feeley will be making his first start, think we will try to run the ball, be conservative on offense, and win with field position created by good defense? cinncy has worked on run defense. all week. they are expecting us to "pound that thing up in there (wanny speak)" and they'll be much better prepared to atleast contain it.

the real issue being overlooked by many is the bad shape the bengal pass defense is in (that's understandable, though, because the dolphins haven't proven their ability to make teams pay for crowding the line and blitzing, and we all have jay to thank for that reputation). starting safeties kim herring and rogers beckett are out with injuries, and rookie cb madieu williams - who got burned by the jets #3 wr last week for a 46 yard td - is expected to start at safety. though cb deltha oneal will return after missing the final 3 preseaon games with a severe ankle sprain, he figures to be a bit rusty and less than 100%. you would have to be incoherent not to test oneal and the bengal 2nd string safeties right from the get-go. if you make just 1 big pass play it will force the bengals to back off and play more coverage. THEN you mix in the runs against lesser fronts and use playaction. the jets executed this game plan to perfection last week. the 46 yard td bomb came in the first quarter, forcing the bengals to respect the deep pass by backing the safeties off the ball and opening up the running game.

it seems like decent game plan to me. if you can't hit a big pass play against single coverage, then you don't deserve to win and you probably won't anyway. i'm afraid though, that even though wanny isn't that stupid, he might be that incoherent. perhaps there isn't even a difference. i guess we'll find out on sunday night.
 
absolutly we should come out Blazing and let Feeley throw all over the place. If there is a team early on that we can get some confidence in the passing game its against the Bengals they are hurting and their pass-rush isnt very good. But Wanny is an idiot and he will try to run against 8-9 in the box...thats just the way it is.
 
good post. and i agree thats what you should TRY to do. but i doubt feeley is the man to do it. hes too inconsistent to launch the deep ball with no fear. if ur run game doesnt get movin, u guys are in big trouble.
 
Niether secondary is fully healthy. But the Bengals run much better. If the fins can't run, and they probably wont Brian Simmons is back this week too, they will have to go and go deep. Try to exploit the Bengals back-up safties. But without Boston it's going to be much harder. Chambers is decent, I've had him in fantasy, but he's not a true number one. More and X than a Z.

The Dolphins could have more trouble with Cincy's passing game than you may expect.
They have better recievers. Peter Warrick is NUMBER 3!!! Working across the middle and that's going to be tough to handle if Surtain is out. That will leave the Rookie, Poole, man on man with him. *(in a 3 or 4 wide package, forcing nickle and dime coverages) Now, being from Ohio State, I'm sure Poole will play hard, but he is a rookie DB all the same. Lots to learn in the NFL and PW has experience. He's gotten much stronger than when FSU also. He's a very good blocker. Look for the Bengals to use him a lot, in a lot of different situations.

Whodey!
 
jditty47 said:
good post. and i agree thats what you should TRY to do. but i doubt feeley is the man to do it. hes too inconsistent to launch the deep ball with no fear. if ur run game doesnt get movin, u guys are in big trouble.
How many games have you watched with Feeley in it?
 
I know I read somewhere about Warrick getting hurt and being out for the game. I remember it because I was really glad, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyone know for sure?
 
Pdub is questionable looking to upgrade to probable. Everyone says he'll play. Will Surtain?
 
darkoak said:
You better hope Surtain doesn't play. Otherwise Palmer might as well giftwrap those INT's.
Please.. Our receivers.. Even Chad, had to adjust to how hard Palmer throws the ball.. In camp, they couldnt pull them in consistantly yet. Even if they get into position, I could see a pooched INT by any player of yours
 
BengalBrian said:
it can 'sound' like all you want.. You shall 'see' what I mean sunday night
Hey you said his receivers can't handle his passes not me. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do against a REAL defense this week as well. I'm not just a Phins fan, I'm a fan of the game as well.
 
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