Commentary: Yet Another Quarterback Article

[ArticleNinja]

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[Dudeman]

In the NFL, he can’t play a whole game that way and won’t be able to make up deficits that quickly.

why not? Jim Kelly did it, and went to 4 straight SBs in the K-Gun. Brock isn't Jim, but the 2 min offense can be run all game successfully.

 

[vinivedivichi]

If Feeley doesn't know the offense, then what does "throwing him into the fire" accomplish?? The result of this decision would be the veterans turning on Saban and him losing their respect. If you look at the players' comments it's pretty clear everyone who's put in their 2 cents favors Gus. Why should we throw in the towel on our season to give AJ a tryout?? Didn't we already do one of those this preseason and he lost??

Gus will start the season as quarterback, and that's the way it should be. If we are 3-9 going into the last part of the year, then we give AJ a shot, but why tell 51 guys to do their best when essentially you are just letting AJ prove himself. If the season is a wreck he'll get his chance. If he practices like he should he will have a better grasp of the offense and those four games will give us enough insight.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

good article, but your only knock on Sage was that he is 27.

guess how old AJ is?

so again, who wins that battle?

 

[NYinBostonFin]

If you look at the players' comments it's pretty clear everyone who's put in their 2 cents favors Gus.

Gus will start the season as quarterback, and that's the way it should be. If we are 3-9 going into the last part of the year, then we give AJ a shot

why tell 51 guys to do their best when essentially you are just letting AJ prove himself. If the season is a wreck he'll get his chance.

Who, besides Mcmichael, "hinted" that he wanted Gus?

When do you put in AJ?....0-5? 1-6?

Why tell them? Because if Feeley does work out and proves himself, they will be great for years to come.


Obviously the article is by someone who now supports feeley so everyone who wants Gus will come and bash. But I enjoyed the article because I've been flip-flopping myself and am leaning back over the Feeley side.

Until the Tampa game at least.

 

[Dudeman]

Who, besides Mcmichael, "hinted" that he wanted Gus?

When do you put in AJ?....0-5? 1-6?

Why tell them? Because if Feeley does work out and proves himself, they will be great for years to come.


Obviously the article is by someone who now supports feeley so everyone who wants Gus will come and bash. But I enjoyed the article because I've been flip-flopping myself and am leaning back over the Feeley side.

Until the Tampa game at least.

Chambers, Hadnot.....those were the only guys that actually had quotes published

 

[NYinBostonFin]

Chambers, Hadnot.....those were the only guys that actually had quotes published

Really? Didn't know that. What they say?

 

[vinivedivichi]

Who, besides Mcmichael, "hinted" that he wanted Gus?

When do you put in AJ?....0-5? 1-6?

Why tell them? Because if Feeley does work out and proves himself, they will be great for years to come.


Obviously the article is by someone who now supports feeley so everyone who wants Gus will come and bash. But I enjoyed the article because I've been flip-flopping myself and am leaning back over the Feeley side.

Until the Tampa game at least.

I want the better quarterback to start, and even the author of the article states that Gus is the better quarterback at this point. I personally don't want to give the ball to AJ and chalk up another embarrassing season. For what?? He can't beat up an average quarterback, so what does that make him?? Do you guys expect him to suddenly stop acting like the guy we've seen for a year and turn into a world beater? I'd rather actually try to win the games with our best players, then if we have to "give up" at the end, give Feeley his chance.

I'm not gonna go back and find all the quotes, but there have been numerous quotes where players praise Gus and don't say too much about AJ. Saban knows it, and so do the players, but some fans still do not.

 

[RWhitney014]

OK guys, some good immediate feedback. Here are my responses:

Dudeman: Jim Kelly was a much better QB than Brock Berlin will ever be. That's the truth. Kelly could throw in the first quarter. Berlin can't until the 4th. Now combine that with a lot of QBs today and you have a great player, but Berlin can't cut it.

Vini: The whole point is to find out whether or not Feeley can handle the fire. Why waste 12 games on Frerotte, who isn't going to factor into our future plans long after next season when his contract is expired? Wouldn't you rather go 3-9 and not have to second-guess yourself, saying "damn, I wish we knew if Feeley were good or not."

TexasPhinsFan: Touche. The difference is that Sage has no experience whatsoever. Feeley has experienced the good with Philly, the bad last season, and the ugly last season. Rosenfels just hasn't thrown enough to be considered ready to start, yet he's too old at this point to be considered a project. Feeley is not a project...it's do-or-die time for him.

Thanks for the support, NYinBoston.

Good stuff, guys. Keep it coming. If you're reading this thread and wondering if you should comment, I'd rather know why you're blasting me than not. It helps me become a better writer.

 

[Dudeman]

OK guys, some good immediate feedback. Here are my responses:

Dudeman: Jim Kelly was a much better QB than Brock Berlin will ever be. That's the truth. Kelly could throw in the first quarter. Berlin can't until the 4th. Now combine that with a lot of QBs today and you have a great player, but Berlin can't cut it.

Vini: The whole point is to find out whether or not Feeley can handle the fire. Why waste 12 games on Frerotte, who isn't going to factor into our future plans long after next season when his contract is expired? Wouldn't you rather go 3-9 and not have to second-guess yourself, saying "damn, I wish we knew if Feeley were good or not."

TexasPhinsFan: Touche. The difference is that Sage has no experience whatsoever. Feeley has experienced the good with Philly, the bad last season, and the ugly last season. Rosenfels just hasn't thrown enough to be considered ready to start, yet he's too old at this point to be considered a project. Feeley is not a project...it's do-or-die time for him.

Thanks for the support, NYinBoston.

Good stuff, guys. Keep it coming. If you're reading this thread and wondering if you should comment, I'd rather know why you're blasting me than not. It helps me become a better writer.

I said Jim was a much better QB. I was just refuting your notion that you can't run the hurry-up all game.....

as to your comment to vini, who's to say that we'd be wasting a season on Frerotte. If we're winning, isnt that whats most important?

 

[RWhitney014]

I said Jim was a much better QB. I was just refuting your notion that you can't run the hurry-up all game.....

as to your comment to vini, who's to say that we'd be wasting a season on Frerotte. If we're winning, isnt that whats most important?

Someone of Berlin's caliber can't run it all game.

He said that if we go 3-9, then try Feeley. But if the team is going to stink with Frerotte at the reins, which is likely, I'd rather find out once and for all if Feeley has it or doesn't. This is a transitional year, in my opinion. We're switching regimes, big time, and some adjustment will be necessary. I don't want to fool ourselves into thinking that Gus Frerotte is going to get us anywhere, because I don't think so myself.

 

[Dudeman]

Really? Didn't know that. What they say?

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2005/08/19/a1b_fins_0819.html

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dolphins24aug24,0,4929431.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

"He has a confident tone in his voice like every play we call is going to be correct," Hadnot said. "I enjoy when someone comes in and his demeanor is real stern. That just puts more confidence in me that he's going to do his job."

The Chambers and McMichael quotes are in the first link

 

[RWhitney014]

By the way, who liked the joke at the start?

 

[vinivedivichi]

I actually like the article. It's well written, and it is a fair assessment of the state of our quarterbacks. I just don't agree with your conclusion, but if everybody agrees with what you're writing then why read??

I fully understand why you would start AJ. We are not gonna be a playoff team, so let's develop AJ, or at the very least see if he can cut it. I don't agree with that POV at all.

At what point do we recognize the fact that we may have already seen the real AJ? He played for the Eagles and did not play that well. He won some games, but take a look at his stats. Last year in Miami he was horrendous, but it's easy to make valid excuses for him. In training camp all he had to do was beat an average quarterback to win the job. He didn't. I would argue that we have seen enough from Feeley already to determine whether or not he is our quarterback of the future.

My biggest problem with starting AJ is the fact that everyone knows Gus is the better QB at this point. You may have given up on our season already, but the coaches and the players have not given up yet. I mean Seau came back becuase Saban personally asked him to. I would think less of Saban if he did that, then starts the worse quarterback to develop him. Do you not see how that's a slap in the face to the rest of the players?? How can Saban tell thim to play their hardest when he's not giving them thier best chance to win??

 

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Agree with most of it but dont believe Volek is ion the same boat as the others....Davey Garrard.....Volek cam into to a strugglinf Teen squad and lit up the NFL putting up much better numbers than Mcnair....big difference Feeley did it with a NFC champ bound Philly team and Volek did it with a team headed to its worst record in over 6-7 years.