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Compatibility Calamity: Why Miami’s Offense Cannot Work With Campbell & Lazor

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The two are not compatible. Plain and simple.


Joe Philbin did not hire Dan Campbell. Interestingly, he is one of the few mainstays from the Tony Sparano era. Sparano believed in a hard-nosed running attack, and was not the type of coach to endorse the heavy-shotgun based system that Miami is currently working out of.

Joe Philbin brought in Bill Lazor in hopes to adopt one of the NFL’s modernized offensive systems. This essentially means that the team does away with power football, operating out of the shotgun as their base formation.

Joe Philbin wanted to fuse these new up-tempo offenses (shotgun heavy) with his Green Bay offense, which also operates in the shotgun.

In short, Ryan Tannehill is not Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers is given immense authority in that offense. Also, calling audibles and making reads are easier in the shotgun in many cases. So, by taking away Tannehill’s ability to call audibles, you neuter the offense by removing one of its best traits.

Dan Campbell is clearly not one for the finesse football that is associated with shotgun offenses. He came from the likes of Bill Parcells and Tony Sparano. These coaches do not know what finesse means.

For some perspective, the undefeated Panthers average 34.2 rushing attempts each week.
The Miami Dolphins’ offense is an entirely different story. They are ranked 24th in rushing first downs per game, averaging almost 5 per game. They are 31st in time of possession, averaging just 45.33% of time on the clock. Coincidentally, they hold the same ranking for rushing attempts, as the 31st team in the league, averaging around 21 per game.

Now, the Miami Dolphins are a finesse football team that cannot win up front or in the trenches.

There are two main problems here.

1) You can’t win football games if you can’t win in the trenches.

2) The Dolphins are a finesse offense, but still aren’t very good at finesse plays.

Bill Lazor and Joe Philbin devised this offensive scheme, specifically in order to operate this 21st century system. Unfortunately, it didn’t work.

Stephen Ross and Mike Tannenbaum clearly wanted to change the team immediately when they fired Joe Philbin.

Dan Campbell wants to make changes, and prepare the team in a way that he feels best equips them to win football games. Unfortunately, three-years of coaching and preparation had gone into Bill Lazor’s system, which is infinitely different.

It is time to realize that the Miami Dolphins’ struggles on offense are attributable not to one individual, but to the relationship between Dan Campbell and Bill Lazor, the two individuals tasked with putting together a competitive unit.

The Dolphins need to find an identity. Unfortunately, it is too late to do so in the 2015 season.

http://thedeependmiami.com/2015/11/...amis-offense-cannot-work-with-campbell-lazor/

Now, the Dolphins are faced with a dilemma. Keep Dam Campbell, fire Lazor and help DC build the team he envisions or blow everything up nd bring in a new face. Either way God help us with a moronic owner like Stephany Ross we are bout to get screwed again.
 
The punt on 4th and 6 soured me on Campbell. The only redemption he could achieve would be to get the team into the playoffs.
 
The punt on 4th and 6 soured me on Campbell. The only redemption he could achieve would be to get the team into the playoffs.

Yeah....that punt did it for me to. Not only because it was the wrong thing to do being down two scores....but because it was the exact opposite of everything he had preached about being aggressive and playing to win.

I definitely hate our offensive scheme....
 
Campbell is not coming back. No delimma

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Yea they definitely have deferring styles. But Campbell is forced to back Lazor and use his system, I'm curious if he could have fired him when he did Coyle. If he had a chance to fire him and didn't that's another knock against him. And yea the timeout mismanagement and the lack of going for it on 4th down, those are more strikes against Campbell. Barring a miracle like Miami winning out. Hes done
 
**** Joe Philbin and everything he did while he was here. A horrific, horrific coach who ****ed us up for a long ****ing time. Joe Philbin this is all your fault. You sucked!!! You and Stepen Ross are the Laurel and Hardy of the NFL.
 
Dink and dunk shotgun offenses that rely on YAC don't work longterm in the NFL. We need balance......a run game that can open up a longer route tree.

We need a better O.C. Campbell needs a little help, but Lazor must go.
 
The punt on 4th and 6 soured me on Campbell. The only redemption he could achieve would be to get the team into the playoffs.

Rizzi should take some heat for that decision as well. When Campbell got hired, Rizzi was put in charge of helping Dan make these types of decisions. Its understandable considering how green Campbell is at being a head coach.
 
Don't tell me the dink and dunk offense can't work in the NFL, because I have seen the Patriots use that offensive scheme may times. It does require the right personnel, the MOST important of which is the QB. As most have admitted, Tannehill can be successful in the right system, but he can't carry on offense on his own. He is a big part of why that offensive scheme doesn't work here. Need to really get every level of this organization on the right page if we ever want to get out of mediocrity hell.
 
Don't tell me the dink and dunk offense can't work in the NFL, because I have seen the Patriots use that offensive scheme may times. It does require the right personnel, the MOST important of which is the QB. As most have admitted, Tannehill can be successful in the right system, but he can't carry on offense on his own. He is a big part of why that offensive scheme doesn't work here. Need to really get every level of this organization on the right page if we ever want to get out of mediocrity hell.

Dink and dunk absolutely can work, but you need to mix it up. The Pats no matter what when they dink and dunk get everybody involved. We really don't. They also mix it up and do stretch the field with Gronk. The other issue is finesse works if you have an OL filled with guys who have good technique. We really don't. Thomas, Turner, Douglas, and to an extent Pouncey are not technique guys. They're athletic, but not technical.

I also think you have to look at Philly's offensive struggles and funny enough, they have the same issues we do. They aren't winning in the trenches, they try to take everything to the outside (both in the passing and running game) and rely heavily on short passes getting YAC.

Let me ask you this, have you seen our offense attack the seam with a TE?
 
Dink and dunk absolutely can work, but you need to mix it up. The Pats no matter what when they dink and dunk get everybody involved. We really don't. They also mix it up and do stretch the field with Gronk. The other issue is finesse works if you have an OL filled with guys who have good technique. We really don't. Thomas, Turner, Douglas, and to an extent Pouncey are not technique guys. They're athletic, but not technical.

I also think you have to look at Philly's offensive struggles and funny enough, they have the same issues we do. They aren't winning in the trenches, they try to take everything to the outside (both in the passing and running game) and rely heavily on short passes getting YAC.

Let me ask you this, have you seen our offense attack the seam with a TE?

Once against the Skins they attacked the seam with Cameron and it went for big yards. So frustrating.
 
He won't be the coach. No worries
 
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