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I'm starting to hear a lot of complaints about the playcalling, but I think some fans and writers are oversimplifying the problem. Should Ronnie Brown be getting more carries? Absolutely. But Linehan's approach has always been to take what is given. When there are 8 or 9 in the box, he passes. When there are only 7, or the defense is in a deep zone, he runs.

The real problem is the passing game. It hasn't been effective in backing the defense off since the Denver game. As long as Frerotte and the receivers aren't connecting, we're going to continue to see defenses stacked on the line of scrimmage to stop the run and to blitz the passer.
 
Frank B said:
I'm starting to hear a lot of complaints about the playcalling, but I think some fans and writers are oversimplifying the problem. Should Ronnie Brown be getting more carries? Absolutely. But Linehan's approach has always been to take what is given. When there are 8 or 9 in the box, he passes. When there are only 7, or the defense is in a deep zone, he runs.

The real problem is the passing game. It hasn't been effective in backing the defense off since the Denver game. As long as Frerotte and the receivers aren't connecting, we're going to continue to see defenses stacked on the line of scrimmage to stop the run and to blitz the passer.
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Yeah, I see what your saying Frank, but at some point when your star RB is getting 10 yards a carry you have to start saying we need to run the ball more!!!! the ratio is 36% run to 64% pass right now! That is unbelieveable. In the Bills game we were gutting their run D, and we passed. We were running the ball on KC, and we end up having to pass because we are down. What is the deal? At some point, you have to say, look, we are going to run the ball 2-3 times and we are going to play close to the vest and give our defense a friggin rest!!!
 
Ronnie Brown said in the locker room after the game on the radio he wanted to see more of the ball. WR and QB sync is a real problem at the moment which doesnt help Ronnie or Ricky but to give the ball to Ronnie 8 times is criminal IMO.
 
Plus it could be intentional also. Brown wasn't ever a full time starter. Maybe the plan is to average him around 12-14 carries a game for the season so he doesn't wear down.
 
complaining?

You guys are a bunch of fair weather fans.

How much would you be complaining about running the ball if Ferrote connected on some of the long pass plays?

How much would you be complaining about play calling if Chambers bucked up and actually fought for a catch instead of waiting for it to drop into his hands on "go" routes?

Would you still be complaining about not running the ball had the rook not fumbled on the last drive of the Buffalo game?

You guys are probably the same guys that were asking for the R-n-R backfield.

How many NFL game plans have you guys scripted? How many calls that you made resulted in a touchdown?

Lets leave the play calling to the Pros. Linehan knows what he is doing and I hope to God he isn't listening to whinning fair weather fans like the ones on this post.
 
VanDolPhan said:
Plus it could be intentional also. Brown wasn't ever a full time starter. Maybe the plan is to average him around 12-14 carries a game for the season so he doesn't wear down.
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But it's not just Ronnie. Even when you combine the number of runs Ricky and Ronnie are getting, it's just not enough. The team needs to run some more to give the D a rest. It worked against Denver and Carolina - 2 teams with really good run D this year.

I'm sure part of the problem is playing from behind, but you still have to stay committed to the run. Especially when the QB isn't completing 50% of his passes.

I would also like to see more screens. That could help to open up the running game and really slow down the pass rush. WIth a pair of backs like R&R the screen could be a huge wepon. Have them both in on the same play and let them go to oposite sides of the field. Then fake to one and throw to the other. These guys are both good in open space and can bowl over guys in the secondary. They need to touch the ball more.
 
phinfreak said:
You guys are a bunch of fair weather fans.

How much would you be complaining about running the ball if Ferrote connected on some of the long pass plays?

How much would you be complaining about play calling if Chambers bucked up and actually fought for a catch instead of waiting for it to drop into his hands on "go" routes?

Would you still be complaining about not running the ball had the rook not fumbled on the last drive of the Buffalo game?

You guys are probably the same guys that were asking for the R-n-R backfield.

How many NFL game plans have you guys scripted? How many calls that you made resulted in a touchdown?

Lets leave the play calling to the Pros. Linehan knows what he is doing and I hope to God he isn't listening to whinning fair weather fans like the ones on this post.
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Is Gus hitting the long throws? No he's not. He has been ineffective which is partly why we would like to see less emphasis on the pass and more on running.
 
phinfreak said:
You guys are a bunch of fair weather fans.

How much would you be complaining about running the ball if Ferrote connected on some of the long pass plays?

How much would you be complaining about play calling if Chambers bucked up and actually fought for a catch instead of waiting for it to drop into his hands on "go" routes?

Would you still be complaining about not running the ball had the rook not fumbled on the last drive of the Buffalo game?

You guys are probably the same guys that were asking for the R-n-R backfield.

How many NFL game plans have you guys scripted? How many calls that you made resulted in a touchdown?

Lets leave the play calling to the Pros. Linehan knows what he is doing and I hope to God he isn't listening to whinning fair weather fans like the ones on this post.
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Fairweather fans? Alot of ppl on here actally rallied round Ronnie Brown after that fumble because fans actually think he is a decent running back who can move the ball.
Frerotte has admitted himself hes disappointed with his play on the long passes, so is it a suprise to have fans on here express a genuine opinion that giving Ronnie Brown the ball 8 times when our passing game is not working a genuine reason to question?
 
Frank B said:
I'm starting to hear a lot of complaints about the playcalling, but I think some fans and writers are oversimplifying the problem. Should Ronnie Brown be getting more carries? Absolutely. But Linehan's approach has always been to take what is given. When there are 8 or 9 in the box, he passes. When there are only 7, or the defense is in a deep zone, he runs.

The real problem is the passing game. It hasn't been effective in backing the defense off since the Denver game. As long as Frerotte and the receivers aren't connecting, we're going to continue to see defenses stacked on the line of scrimmage to stop the run and to blitz the passer.
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You are just wrong period.

No way you pass the ball on 2nd and 1, and 3rd and 1!! No damn way.
I don't care if it is 11 against 12, you run the ball on one of those downs!
 
This is what bothers us most about the play calling. Miami gets the ball, down 14 points, with 13:18 left to go in the game at our own 15 yard line. KC has just completed two long drives of 14 and 9 plays respectively while eating up around 11 minutes of clock. On our first play Brown runs for 9 yards. It's 2nd & 1 and Gus throws another incomplete pass to CC with Surtain guarding him. Ok no big deal. It was 2nd & 1. No harm in looking for a big play through the air at that point. We can get the first down on 3rd and short. So do we run Ronnie on 3rd and short? Do we give the ball to the RB that has done something positive with the ball the few times he has touched it in the 2nd half? No, instead we throw it again to CC. Incomplete, and we punt. 0.58 second possession.

No excuses for that call. No need to panic and think we have to score right away. Our defense need a rest. We needed field position. We needed a first down and it was right there for the taking. And we just left it lying there...
 
Just a somewhat random thought.......

Why do people say running eats up clock and gives the defense time to rest?? Running the football keeps the game clock running, but the defense is no more rested if the gameclock is running or if it isn't. An incomplete pass stops the gameclock, but offenses are still using basically all of the play clock to ready themselves for the next play. In reality, 1st downs allow defenses to rest, NOT running games.
 
You can take what the defense gives you as long as your offense can DO it. If you're offense can't do it, you better figure out another way to take what the defense gives you. If they're putting 8 in the box on us, it doesn't necessarily mean we have to throw 50-yard bombs in response.
 
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