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JTech194

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I know we all love a good conspiracy theory so hear me out..

Do you think it's coincidence that the main players cut or traded on the offensive side of the ball (ie' Wallace, Hartline, Gibson) all had issues with their roles in the offense, mainly how many times they were getting targeted? Hartline complained about it early in the season, the year before last he had over 1000 yards and i'm not sure how many targets, Wallace was upset all year over the number of targets he was getting, and Gibson didn't seem to get many targets either but I think he was hurt a lot. While Landry got plenty of targets as a rookie (They drafted him)

Do you think the goal was to get rid of them (Cut or Trade) at the end of the season anyway and the lack of Targets was deliberate in an effort to make cutting them more palatable to fans? I've heard players say that they thought some teams would purposely take them out of games or wouldn't call plays for them so that they wouldn't reach certain financial incentives. I'm not saying i believe all of this it's just strange to me that all year I think WE ALL were questioning how many times Hartline and Wallace were getting the ball thrown their way and then they get cut\traded at the end of the season..... :ponder: It would have been a PR nightmare if they had cut Hartline if he had another 1000 yard season, or trade Wallace if he had lets say 1300 yards and 13 TD. :ponder:

What do you all think?
 
I am sure more goes on behind the scenes than we can ever guess, and I am sure coaches have pulled players to change money they are due etc.. but I don't believe that was the situation here and really don't think it was used to get rid of them.
 
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what? no aliens?

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pfft thats not a very good conspiracy theory
 
BillsFanInPeace said:
A better conspiracy theory...

You traded or Cut all Tannenhills weapons so he can suck next year and you cen re-sign him for cheaper.
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Nah, bar landry and Sims everyone disappointed last year.

Hartline was basically written out of the playbook, Gibson wasn't the same player after the injury, Wallace was too busy sulking to play and Clay was hurt most the year
 
There's no conspiracy. We want better players and better teammates. Selfish players don't belong on this team. If we draft one of the top 3 WRs, we're good. Top 3 > Wallace, Stills > Hartline, Landry > Gibson, Cameron > Clay. I love what the team is doing but I just wished we got more for Wallace. Straight up 4th would've been great but I think the cap situation for the next 3 years looks a lot better with those 3 WRs gone!!!
 
greasyObnoxious said:
i think it's much easier than that: production didn't match the salary
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This.
T-Baum and Hickey are employing the "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" approach.
Wallace may have 10 TD's, but his issues with the team lowered his worth -- you can't rely on a guy to play 100% for you when you know he's disgruntled, let alone make him one of the top-paid WR's in the league.
Hartline and Gibson likely would have been let go or restructured on any other team (with a competent GM) if they had those salaries but only put up those numbers. Ireland was foolish to pay them that much in the first place.
 
greasyObnoxious said:
i think it's much easier than that: production didn't match the salary
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Which is exactly what they want us to think. Maybe production didn't match the salary because they didn't want it to. Explain to me how Hartline gets 1000 yards one year, and doesn't get half that the next year? Did he all of a sudden forget how to get open, OR were they calling plays to purposely go elsewhere with the ball? Why is it that Wallace best attribute is the deep ball but we "By Choice" only called the deep ball 1 MAYBE 2 times a game?? Makes you wonder.

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DolfanISS said:
Matthews was upset too, is he next?
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I hope not. But with this regime... who knows. But the difference is... Matthews is young and cheap.
 
BillsFanInPeace said:
A better conspiracy theory...

You traded or Cut all Tannenhills weapons so he can suck next year and you cen re-sign him for cheaper.
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NOW YOU'RE THINKING!!! :-)

I've actually heard players make these acquisitions with other teams.. AND I truly believe the cowboys were behind the whole video no video in the Dez Bryant situation with the sole purpose to put the thought out there to scare other teams away from giving him a huge long term contract. Which would make it easier for them to sign him.
 
JTech194 said:
Which is exactly what they want us to think. Maybe production didn't match the salary because they didn't want it to. Explain to me how Hartline gets 1000 yards one year, and doesn't get half that the next year? Did he all of a sudden forget how to get open, OR were they calling plays to purposely go elsewhere with the ball? Why is it that Wallace best attribute is the deep ball but we "By Choice" only called the deep ball 1 MAYBE 2 times a game?? Makes you wonder.

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I hope not. But with this regime... who knows. But the difference is... Matthews is young and cheap.
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Hartline.... ummmm yeah he wasnt getting open well, or separating. you watched the games right? who knows what his work ethic was becoming, especialyla fter he was released the comments of his attitude and diva self came about shockingly. he was being outplayed!!!

and Wallace was getting paid ridiculously and not fitting in overly well with our offense... but not all his fault, and he is/was being important to us being on the field for our offense. but he himself had diva issues too.

as greasy said... production wasnt matching contracts.

add in Wheeler, Ellerbe, Starks
 
King Dingaling said:
There's no conspiracy. We want better players and better teammates. Selfish players don't belong on this team. If we draft one of the top 3 WRs, we're good. Top 3 > Wallace, Stills > Hartline, Landry > Gibson, Cameron > Clay. I love what the team is doing but I just wished we got more for Wallace. Straight up 4th would've been great but I think the cap situation for the next 3 years looks a lot better with those 3 WRs gone!!!
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I'm ok with the moves as well, my only complaint is that we should have held on to Wallace for at least one more year, this would have given us time to gather more information on Stills and Whatever rookie WR we draft. Having Stills and a Rookie play under our system with our QB for a year to see how they perform would have been the more prudent strategy. If they prove they can play HERE, THEN you cut\Trade Wallace. Hell maybe he even has a better year next year and you could have gotten more for him. But to GIVE him away for a 5th just to clear salary cap space..... I sure as hell hope we use that money wisely.

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whizafriz said:
This.
T-Baum and Hickey are employing the "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" approach.
Wallace may have 10 TD's, but his issues with the team lowered his worth -- you can't rely on a guy to play 100% for you when you know he's disgruntled, let alone make him one of the top-paid WR's in the league.
Hartline and Gibson likely would have been let go or restructured on any other team (with a competent GM) if they had those salaries but only put up those numbers. Ireland was foolish to pay them that much in the first place.
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Again... Hartline CAN'T catch the ball if it isn't throw to him. IJS
 
JTech194 said:
Which is exactly what they want us to think. Maybe production didn't match the salary because they didn't want it to. Explain to me how Hartline gets 1000 yards one year, and doesn't get half that the next year? Did he all of a sudden forget how to get open, OR were they calling plays to purposely go elsewhere with the ball? Why is it that Wallace best attribute is the deep ball but we "By Choice" only called the deep ball 1 MAYBE 2 times a game?? Makes you wonder.
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the offense changed and he started losing snaps to a better fit in Landry. i don't think there's more to it than that
 
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