Discussion in 'Beasts of the AFC East' started by TheJetsBlow, Apr 3, 2018.
Welp makes the Landry trade look even worse. **** NE.
I believe the Patriots are going to try to make a trade for Odell Beckham
WHY do all of these stupid-*** teams continue to help NE EVERY year with trades???
This is what I can't figure out.
Wow, that marriage didn't last very long. I wonder if getting shot down on that Monday night game in December had anything to do with their falling out?
cooks and fourth to rams for 23rd overall pick
What did they give up for him just last year?
Shoot my bad, I forgot about free agent thread. Mods feel free to move this there
A 1st and a 3rd.
NE constantly winning helps them **** the rest of the league with these trades. Will it ever end?
They have 5 picks in the first three rounds. Their next franchise QB will be drafted this year.
If the Rams felt that their biggest need was WR, they probably weren't finding a better one in this draft, so it makes some sense in that regard.
And, obviously, **** the pats.
Good move for both teams. They were unlikely to extend Cooks, so it makes sense for them to get something in return for him. Adding a first round pick is good going and an upgrade on what they sent to the Saints. Asset wise they've got enough to trade up for a quarterback if they desire to do so.
Tannenbum panicked on the Landry trade. I don't know if Cooks contract is as steep as Landry's but that may be another reason for more compensation for Cooks.
So the Pats rent Cooks for a year then trade him for a pick 9 spots higher in the first round than they gave up...yet we trade Landry, 3 time Pro Bowler, for a 4th. I hate Mike Tannenbaum.
Bill Belichick: "Xavien Howard totally obliterated Brandin Cooks. Get rid of him."
Two completely different situations.
Jarvis was a free agent. Cooks isn't.
Whoever we traded Jarvis to had to be willing to pay him the franchise tag amount (just under $16 million) for 2018 if he doesn't sign a long term deal. It's a miracle we were able to get anything under those circumstances.
I think Cooks is under contract for around $8 million next season. Apples and oranges.
Gave up a first round pick for a player under contract for only 1 year. Wow. How do the Patriots make these deals?
Fairly sure they're confident they'll get him locked up long-term, or they'd have never parted with a first rounder:
They just keep meddling in our business in a round about way by adding another #1 pick to their arsenal by trading Brandin Cooks to the Rams. They are now in a better position than us to move up and grab a QB as are the Bills...........Get ready for a non-sexy pick at 11 and a "2nd tier" QB to be drafted later on as I have been yelling for some time..............
What in B.B. history gives you that assumption that he’s trading up for a QB? Curious
I'm confused. Is this post under the assumption that the Bills and Pats both trade up in the top 10 and all the QB's will be taken by 11?
If anybody is thinking non QB at 11, just remember Jax. They passed on Watson for Fournette.
That was not a good decision to say the least without going overboard with language. You can also refer to the Browns.
Until you have that rookie phenom who wins, on a rookie contract, so you can fitmly extend him to make a run at more SBs, you do not have the QB.
And that is where we are at.
Our QB is not a phenom like Brady, Big Ben, Russ, Wentz. It does not matter that he developed well into a starter, nor that they invested six years in him.
He is not a phenom. Until we get one, the pursuit in first round is all about that QB. And this is as good a year as any.
Any other player drafted in first round is just roster filler of no consequence, like Jawuan James, Mike Pouncey, Devante Parker, Charles Harris, etc.
Derwin James and Tremaine Edmunds are no different. A big nothing.
Edmunds, James, Fitzpatrick, Smith.... All sexy names to me.
I was thinking this when I heard the news. If I'm a GM, I'm not taking Belichick's calls. Seriously, has he ever "lost" on any of these trades? I would treat him like the Jehovah's Witnesses if he came knocking on my door. "Everyone, quiet, sshhhh. Stay still. Maybe he will think no one is home and just leave"
Yo Largo fin, you stole my pic!
First questionable offseason move by the Rams IMHO but when you’re all in....
I would actually much prefer the Patriots trade all their picks to get a QB than to rebuild the D or offensive line.
I agree with the QB thought, but still think you need divergence makers sprinkled throughout the roster. Especially on D.
I can see the Patriots using their picks to get Ridley in first. Saban connection, replaces Cooks on the cheap, would be deadly from the start with Brady IMO.
The Ealy trade was a complete failure by the Patriots. Couldn't even get a full season from the guy.
Im sorry. I’ll find a different pic of the GOAT.
It’s a great pic tho!
My only worry is Mason Rudolph this year. I want us to get him and I do not want our division rivals to get him. He is most pro ready, pocket passer, great accuracy, and killer scorer.
I am not worried about the Jets. They will draft a project at 3. It will take them four years to train him to Tannehill’s level, if they can even manage to do that. They are a bad organization known for ruining and mismanaging quarterbacks.
Bills are a different story. They have a good sense about QBs with the new staff. They drafted Peterman last year, and while Peterman is not good, he is a near miss. They also acquired AJ McCarron who is an excellent QB. His only issue is low attempts, so Im not sure he can carry the NFL passing load over the season. But Bills are on the right track to finding the phenom.
They also have draft picks to move ahead of us.
And then the Patriots. They just acquired pick 23 and have pick 31.
The Patriots are in succession mode. Brady has hinted retirement after 2018. They kept McDaniels as heir apparent to Bill. They need a QB to succeed Brady. Kraft has said that. They are looking into QBs. They have too many roster needs to make another run.
Raiders are sitting right in front of us and the Bills. They just released Walford and could use a tight end. Gruden could also use picks. Patriots are rumored to be shopping Gronkowski in an attempt to move up in draft.
For now, all are sitting put in place, waiting to see who drops and whether to move up. We are rumored to be interested in moving to the Colts’ spot at six.
In all this gameplay for QBs in the division, nothing worries me more than missing out on Rudolph, and Pats or Bills getting him. Nobody seems to be interested in moving up for the top three or four but the Jets. Which leads me to think they are more interested in one of the second-batch quarterbacks.
Especially so after seing Tomlin and the Steelers work out Rudolph. By the way, Big Ben has also hinted retirement. Cardinals being so quiet.
And today, Ozzie Newsome said media might be very surprised at who they pick at 16 if they stay at 16.
This draft is going to be epic. All these QBs are projects. It will take them years to get up to speed, except one. And I do not want that one in the wrong hands. It would be a decade long bad decision. I don’t think the Phins can afford to miss out.
There is no way Rudolph falls to us in the second round, I think. I believe NE takes him with their last first round pick.