Copy New England's gameplan

[Samphin]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

 

[Zeke0123]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

that sounds like a DAMN good plan since the LBers are by far their biggest str.

 

[MonkeyDog]

Brady does an awesome job of running their offense. Saban likes challenges as opportunities to be great. It looks like the only way to stop NE is to disrupt the F out Tom Brady. And 4 quarters of hitting the crap out of the rest of them.

 

[ckparrothead]

What more can you say about the New England game adjustments though. I mean they went into the game with the aim of stopping the running game of Lamont Jordan first and then taking away Randy Moss, then Randy starts to hurt them real bad, so they completely took him away and then pressured Kerry, and then even better ended up dropping 8 or 9 men into coverage zones which had Kerry looking left, right, center, left again, flat, right again, and then either getting sacked or throwing it away. Those adjustments were awesome.

 

[shellgh0st]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

I think Brady does a great job running that system when he is clean. He is average when he gets hit, hurried, and has pressure put on him. He gets great support from his OL, which allows them to spread people out and still be successful.

Its a good idea, if our OL can give Gus the kind of support the Pats OL gave Brady. He went play after play with NO ONE coming close to sacking him or getting knocked down after a pass.

Can our OL protect like that without the help of a TE and RB? If so, I would be in favor of spreading the denver D out. However, I think we can run on them from a two TE set, as we did against the bucs.

 

[MonkeyDog]

What more can you say about the New England game adjustments though. I mean they went into the game with the aim of stopping the running game of Lamont Jordan first and then taking away Randy Moss, then Randy starts to hurt them real bad, so they completely took him away and then pressured Kerry, and then even better ended up dropping 8 or 9 men into coverage zones which had Kerry looking left, right, center, left again, flat, right again, and then either getting sacked or throwing it away. Those adjustments were awesome.

Absolutely, the genious of BB

 

[Rich22]

How many times did Brady take a 3 step drop and fire. Don't need a lot of protection there - the problem is you need to be able to read the D and know where to throw the pass. To disrupt you have to on D be able to hide your coverage so he can't get away with that. He ate Oak up with quick tosses. I don't see Gus being able to do that. I'm not sure our D is able to be that disruptive yet but that is what it will take to beat NE.

 

[bakedmatt]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

the catch is, we'll have to pass efficiently. so...

 

[Maynard the Hammer]

What more can you say about the New England game adjustments though. I mean they went into the game with the aim of stopping the running game of Lamont Jordan first and then taking away Randy Moss, then Randy starts to hurt them real bad, so they completely took him away and then pressured Kerry, and then even better ended up dropping 8 or 9 men into coverage zones which had Kerry looking left, right, center, left again, flat, right again, and then either getting sacked or throwing it away. Those adjustments were awesome.

yeah. you can sort of see their LBs adjust on the fly based on pre-snap looks as well.

 

[broncos4life]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

you know your right but dont think that darrant williams cant play when we play the nickle he played in champ baileys place against the colts starting offense and he stuck to marvin harrison like glue and im not taking a shot at your wr's but he is better than any of them especialy with peyton manning throwing the ball

 

[yankeehillbilly]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

Im not sure any of our QBs can take advantage of rookie corners. Brady is effecient, smart, and extremely accurate. Gus is.....well, he's Gus.

 

[Shouright]

It'd be a good plan also because it'd take the pressure off Ronnie Brown. I don't want the first gameplan of the season riding on his shoulders.

 

[Dolphin North]

How many times did Brady take a 3 step drop and fire. Don't need a lot of protection there - the problem is you need to be able to read the D and know where to throw the pass. To disrupt you have to on D be able to hide your coverage so he can't get away with that. He ate Oak up with quick tosses. I don't see Gus being able to do that. I'm not sure our D is able to be that disruptive yet but that is what it will take to beat NE.

Yes. Remember that BB is about 4 (or 5?) years ahead of Saban in his coaching of his team. He has had his drafts, got the players he wants, has an established core of guys who know the system so well, that he can almost dial up any gameplan he wants to now. Like some guys said in this thread, nice if we could get more O-line support, or our QB could read the D like Brady. The Pats could not do what they do today even a few years ago. We can get to that point with Saban, but if things don't go as we foresee on Sunday, don't blame him yet. He may be forced to avoid the weaknesses of his own team in his offensive plan, as much as trying to expose the weaknesses of Denver.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

I think that is a great gameplan for us. As much as Williams stuck to Harrison in preseason it will be different with motions and adjustments. Not saying this guy isn't good but there is a reason why rookie corners get picked on.

On the game, the Raiders had no pass rush at all. The Offense looked eerily similiar to what we did. 3rd and 20, draw, 3rd and 13 off tackle. What the hell is that? The other thing is the raiders have 5 receivers who are burners but never brought in 5 receivers on a play. The Pats didn't look great against the run. Jordan looked like he got tired. I just felt that Norv didn't mix it up enough. Sort of like what happened here.

 

[Justasportsfan]

I know Saban and Belechick are always talked about like they are joined at the hip and this won't help change that perception, but, we need to copy New England's gameplan for Sunday.

Oakland has a couple of rookies in their defensive backfield and a seemingly "shut down corner" as well ( although I think Woodson is VASTLY overrated ). What did New England do? They spread out the offense by using three or four receivers and then having the RB go in motion to spread them even thinner. Then, Brady focused on the rookies and exposed Routt as being inexperienced. Many penalties and big plays were a result of mismathes like this.

Denver has a similar situation. Champ Bailey is leaps and bounds ahead of woodson, but he is also slightly injured. I don't mind testing his hammy but the real focus needs to be on getting denver's LB's off the field and forcing them into nickel and dime packages where their rookie DB's will be on the field. Chambers, Booker, McMichael and Boston can all provide mismatches for their own reasons against their DB's and get us some points.

What do you guys think?

You don't have the OL to give Gus all day to throw like NE did yesterday. You also can't just pick up NE's game plan because you are using Linehans system. You don't have a qb that is as smart as Brady. (dang I hate myself for saying that) Although Brown could someday be better than Dillon, I don't think he can carry the load yet nor does he have the OL to do so.