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Criticising the Dolphins isn't hating/bashing

Ekinger

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It sure seems many people forget how much these guys get paid and why it is they do what they do.

People become qbs or any other position in the nfl because they are better than anyone else at it. They are then paid millions of dollars to perform tasks at which they are better than anyone else.

Their salaries are essentially paid by the people that enjoy watching these people perform amazing physical and mental feats.

When the people that work for us and are paid ridiculous sums of money by us don't perform stellarly, they should be and should expect to be criticized. It's part of doing what they do and is a job requirement. They are compensated more than fairly to deal with and endure that criticism.

If a qb is ranked at the bottom of 32, simple logic suggests that there are others out there somewhere that are better and aren't starting. If a team goes 1 and 6 with as much talent on it as the Dolphins had, then the coach is supremely responsible and should receive a supreme amount of criticism.

The difference between the greats and the rest is how they deal with that criticism. Whether they like the criticism and if it motivates them. Whether they recognize that they have made a mistake somewhere and are willing to accept responsibility for that mistake and fix it. Jason Taylor is a great example. He always accepts responsibility and always uses his own failure as a great motivator. Arguably for his size, he's one of the greatest defensive ends of all time. He's that rare combination of physical and mental accuity combined with accountibility and a real sense of pride in his performance.

It seems there are many, many others on the Dolphins including some coaches that would be well served to follow his example. The talent is there but the pride, accountibility and responsibility seem to be lacking.
 
point taken but you could have said this in the other thread. You didn't need you're own thread to get your point across.

Again point taken.
 
If there was another thread in which this topic was discussed subject I apologize. I don't necessarily look that hard when I start one.

I think this is a decent thread to discuss.

If the point of being on here and expressing our feelings/thoughts about the Dolphins is simply to cheerlead, then I need to change the way I do things or go somewhere else. I don't think I criticized the team much at all last year even when they started horribly. This year they seemed to have taken many steps backwards and but for a few players, they blame it on the fickle ways of the wind. So my criticisms have increased this year.

I'm a fan, and a loyal one. Always will be. I still wear my Dolphins garb weekly in New Hampshire. There are 3 Dolphins fans in NH. I don't like my loyalty being challenged constantly when I'm asking real questions and making real criticisms and I think people tend to forget thagt criticising isn't bashing and it can be very productive.

Through all my criticism I've certainly learned things through responses that temper my growing concern over the ability of the coaching staff.
 
Ekinger said:
It sure seems many people forget how much these guys get paid and why it is they do what they do.

People become qbs or any other position in the nfl because they are better than anyone else at it. They are then paid millions of dollars to perform tasks at which they are better than anyone else.

Their salaries are essentially paid by the people that enjoy watching these people perform amazing physical and mental feats.

When the people that work for us and are paid ridiculous sums of money by us don't perform stellarly, they should be and should expect to be criticized. It's part of doing what they do and is a job requirement. They are compensated more than fairly to deal with and endure that criticism.

If a qb is ranked at the bottom of 32, simple logic suggests that there are others out there somewhere that are better and aren't starting. If a team goes 1 and 6 with as much talent on it as the Dolphins had, then the coach is supremely responsible and should receive a supreme amount of criticism.

The difference between the greats and the rest is how they deal with that criticism. Whether they like the criticism and if it motivates them. Whether they recognize that they have made a mistake somewhere and are willing to accept responsibility for that mistake and fix it. Jason Taylor is a great example. He always accepts responsibility and always uses his own failure as a great motivator. Arguably for his size, he's one of the greatest defensive ends of all time. He's that rare combination of physical and mental accuity combined with accountibility and a real sense of pride in his performance.

It seems there are many, many others on the Dolphins including some coaches that would be well served to follow his example. The talent is there but the pride, accountibility and responsibility seem to be lacking.
good post,i was just starting to get into it when all of a sudden it ended.keep going brother,preach on
 
I think it may help you to realize that the number one issue among the fans right now IMO is HOPE that we'll regain our status as one of the best teams in the NFL, and when you raise issues that threaten that, you're likely to draw the ire of many other members of the forum because you're implicitly raising doubt about the strength and validity of their hope. No one wants to feel hopeless.

And unfortunately hope can diminish one's objectivity; hence people are less able to respond to the issue in the thread objectively and the discussion becomes an emotional tug-of-war in many cases.

I share your frustration! :wink:
 
PhinsRock said:
Did we really need a thread for this topic?
I appreciated it,maybe your a little jealous of his ability to articulate himself
 
Many here implicate that this is what the VIP lounge is for... it's a shame that we cannot enjoy the same seriuos non-homeristic views here in the "Zoo"
 
I agree whole heartedly. There are teams out the with less man for man talent, less coaching experience winning ballgames.... The coaching was what was supposed to put us over the top this year, yet to me it is our biggest weakness.. Saban is lost at times, Capers is doing a good job, but everyone thought Mularkey could just pick up where the last offensive coach left off and that Hudson Houck is some genius.... It isn't going down like that. This proves that our previous OC was every bit a good coach and that Saban needs work.
 
I would hire Fassel as our OC as soon as possible. He's had some pretty good offensive clubs in the past.
 
EKINGER: your wasting your time man. love your posts, but a lot
of the guys here have just plain lost it!!

these are the same who wanted wanny and jay back and there
now the ones begging for duante to come back after joey doesnt
get sacked, throws 3 td's and wins.

theres even people who would ban you for your opinions!!

for guys like me, your preaching to the choir.

for the ones who call us haters and bashers and non fans
and want us banned, you will NEVER reach them.

there to far gone.

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KUECH IS RIGHT!!
 
JG718 said:
point taken but you could have said this in the other thread. You didn't need you're own thread to get your point across.

Again point taken.
What the hell was the point:confused:
 
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