Culpepper career in serious question if not doubt.

[060693]

Guys, I am huge fin fan but the injury will prove too much for him to overcome. I am in the field of sports rehabilitation and medicine. The extent to CP's injury is significant and the rehab process was extremely pivotal to his career. He needed highly trained and specialised rehab docs like at the Rehab institute of Chicago ( best in the world), he was rehabing at Healthsouth ( a good clinic for layman pedestrian individuals like ourselves, not for premier athletes; I was shocked when I learned of this). To further compound the issue, the the after surgery is the make or break of the injury. Meaning that if you do not pursue elite level rehab when the rehab process starts the affects are not as significant and furthermore, it is not like you can turn back the hands of time because the healing process or lack thereof is a permanent process ( connective tissue, ligaments, tendons settling,etc etc). The very nature that he had to go back in to surgery is proof of not only a poor rehab process but also the fact that the still delicate nature of his injury was only exacerbated by the collisions he suffered during the regular season. Furthermore, do not compare Carlson Palmer as these injuries are of the highly individual in nature ( meaning that success for carlson does not correlate or mean success for CP; most unfortunate but the truth). The dolphin organization will not address this year as there is still a season to worry about, but you will see next summer that CP will still not be ready physically or if he is the knee will not be able to support the athletic demand that it takes to play in the nfl. I think the Saban and the dolphin organization knows this, I think CP knows this as well. But there is a time and a place to address this situation and right now is not it.

 

[emocomputerjock]

Guys, I am huge fin fan but the injury will prove too much for him to overcome. I am in the field of sports rehabilitation and medicine. The extent to CP's injury is significant and the rehab process was extremely pivotal to his career. He needed highly trained and specialised rehab docs like at the Rehab institute of Chicago ( best in the world), he was rehabing at Healthsouth ( a good clinic for layman pedestrian individuals like ourselves, not for premier athletes; I was shocked when I learned of this). To further compound the issue, the the after surgery is the make or break of the injury. Meaning that if you do not pursue elite level rehab when the rehab process starts the affects are not as significant and furthermore, it is not like you can turn back the hands of time because the healing process or lack thereof is a permanent process ( connective tissue, ligaments, tendons settling,etc etc). The very nature that he had to go back in to surgery is proof of not only a poor rehab process but also the fact that the still delicate nature of his injury was only exacerbated by the collisions he suffered during the regular season. Furthermore, do not compare Carlson Palmer as these injuries are of the highly individual in nature ( meaning that success for carlson does not correlate or mean success for CP; most unfortunate but the truth). The dolphin organization will not address this year as there is still a season to worry about, but you will see next summer that CP will still not be ready physically or if he is the knee will not be able to support the athletic demand that it takes to play in the nfl. I think the Saban and the dolphin organization knows this, I think CP knows this as well. But there is a time and a place to address this situation and right now is not it.

All reports I've read point to an piece of cartilage that was behind Culpepper's knee as the source of his problems, not any functional issue with the knee or rehab. The team doctors cleared Culpepper to play, but he was suffering from continuing pain. If there's additional information I don't have on the subject I apologize for my ignorance, but from everything I've heard since the second surgery things should be fine for next year.

 

[DuderinoN703]

I'll let his doctors decide his fate, not you.

 

[Brsdd]

He needed highly trained and specialised rehab docs like at the Rehab institute of Chicago ( best in the world), he was rehabing at Healthsouth ( a good clinic for layman pedestrian individuals like ourselves, not for premier athletes; I was shocked when I learned of this).

I didn't know Brad Childress posted here.:D

I live in LA down the street from a HealthSouth facility where the LA Lakers and LA Dodgers rehab. I certainly wouldn't refer to it as a layman's rehab center.

 

[DirtyDolfan]

I didn't know Brad Childress posted here.:D

I live in LA down the street from a HealthSouth facility where the LA Lakers and LA Dodgers rehab. I certainly wouldn't refer to it as a layman's rehab center.

He referred to it as a layman's rehab clinic b/c anyone can go to a healthsouth. I agree with you, though, as I had an internship at a healthsouth in Miami that helped out the Miami Heat in the 90's...so high level athletes do use their facilities...

 

[SCall13]

Guys, I am huge fin fan but the injury will prove too much for him to overcome. I am in the field of sports rehabilitation and medicine. The extent to CP's injury is significant and the rehab process was extremely pivotal to his career. He needed highly trained and specialised rehab docs like at the Rehab institute of Chicago ( best in the world), he was rehabing at Healthsouth ( a good clinic for layman pedestrian individuals like ourselves, not for premier athletes; I was shocked when I learned of this). To further compound the issue, the the after surgery is the make or break of the injury. Meaning that if you do not pursue elite level rehab when the rehab process starts the affects are not as significant and furthermore, it is not like you can turn back the hands of time because the healing process or lack thereof is a permanent process ( connective tissue, ligaments, tendons settling,etc etc). The very nature that he had to go back in to surgery is proof of not only a poor rehab process but also the fact that the still delicate nature of his injury was only exacerbated by the collisions he suffered during the regular season. Furthermore, do not compare Carlson Palmer as these injuries are of the highly individual in nature ( meaning that success for carlson does not correlate or mean success for CP; most unfortunate but the truth). The dolphin organization will not address this year as there is still a season to worry about, but you will see next summer that CP will still not be ready physically or if he is the knee will not be able to support the athletic demand that it takes to play in the nfl. I think the Saban and the dolphin organization knows this, I think CP knows this as well. But there is a time and a place to address this situation and right now is not it.

Good post. You'll get hammered by a lot of people for it, but good post anyway. Some fans are so determined Culpepper is going to be the man that they put the blinders on to all the the negative possibilities concerning him and his injuries, and possible future limitations. This is a very real possibility and should not be ignored. I'm pretty confident the Dolphins won't ignore this and will look to find some security somewhere just in case Culpepper has even more problems in the future. I'm afraid fans have put all, or MOST, of their eggs in the Culpepper basket and pretty much have said "to hell with anyone else."

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

I think Culpepper just pushed himself too hard too soon. I respect Culpepper for his attempt{s} to come back as soon as he did, but in the end, all of his efforts only set him back further. He still has a long way to go, and the fact that Harrington is playing better than most expected, will only make it more difficult for Culpepper to win back the starting job....

Regardless of what Saban says, it will be Culpepper himself who ultimately decides what his future holds. His knee rehab is riding on it too.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

 

[SCall13]

All reports I've read point to an piece of cartilage that was behind Culpepper's knee as the source of his problems, not any functional issue with the knee or rehab. The team doctors cleared Culpepper to play, but he was suffering from continuing pain. If there's additional information I don't have on the subject I apologize for my ignorance, but from everything I've heard since the second surgery things should be fine for next year.

How often are the reports you've read completel accurate and truthful? The Dolphins organization, if there is concern about his injury and the extent of it, certainly wouldn't come out and proclaim it at this point.

 

[fishypete]

I think Culpepper just pushed himself too hard too soon. I respect Culpepper for his attempt{s} to come back as soon as he did, but in the end, all of his efforts only set him back further. He still has a long way to go, and the fact that Harrington is playing better than most expected, will only make it more difficult for Culpepper to win back the starting job....

Regardless of what Saban says, it will be Culpepper himself who ultimately decides what his future holds. His knee rehab is riding on it too.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

We rarely disagree....but I don't respect Culpepper for coming back early...or in fact hiding the truth about his knee....it was a stupid move on his part...and it's very obvious that he hid the truth from the Dolphins. So we have a QB thats useless....and may never be able to come back from this...again, the Dolphins lose out on cap money...and a chance to acquire a QB...that HAD talent....tell me who wins?

You get what you pay for....shame the Dolphins went with the cheaper option at QB.

 

[jlfin]

Guys, I am huge fin fan but the injury will prove too much for him to overcome. I am in the field of sports rehabilitation and medicine. The extent to CP's injury is significant and the rehab process was extremely pivotal to his career. He needed highly trained and specialised rehab docs like at the Rehab institute of Chicago ( best in the world), he was rehabing at Healthsouth ( a good clinic for layman pedestrian individuals like ourselves, not for premier athletes; I was shocked when I learned of this). To further compound the issue, the the after surgery is the make or break of the injury. Meaning that if you do not pursue elite level rehab when the rehab process starts the affects are not as significant and furthermore, it is not like you can turn back the hands of time because the healing process or lack thereof is a permanent process ( connective tissue, ligaments, tendons settling,etc etc). The very nature that he had to go back in to surgery is proof of not only a poor rehab process but also the fact that the still delicate nature of his injury was only exacerbated by the collisions he suffered during the regular season. Furthermore, do not compare Carlson Palmer as these injuries are of the highly individual in nature ( meaning that success for carlson does not correlate or mean success for CP; most unfortunate but the truth). The dolphin organization will not address this year as there is still a season to worry about, but you will see next summer that CP will still not be ready physically or if he is the knee will not be able to support the athletic demand that it takes to play in the nfl. I think the Saban and the dolphin organization knows this, I think CP knows this as well. But there is a time and a place to address this situation and right now is not it.

Paralysis by overanalysis.
He was getting top level rehab in Minnesota following his surgery. He was only at the Healthsouth facility for approx 2 months.
Top level rehab is not that difficult to find in most major cities, especially if they have major college or professional sports franchises.
If he doesn't recover fully it will be because the injury was to severe, not because of some alleged poor rehab.

 

[PerfectFinz72]

I'd be shocked if Culpepper isn't ready to start week 1 of next season. Whether or not he wins the job remains to be seen. But I already hate the idea there is a QB controversary for next season before this season even ends. Someday I hope we can have a QB like Danny again where you knew year in and out he was the starter. Every year we hear how it takes the QB (feeley, frerotte, rosenfels, Cpep, Joey) x number of weeks to get on the same page as his receivers and by then, we're in such a hole that even a tremendous second half of the season can't get us in the playoffs.

 

[jlfin]

He referred to it as a layman's rehab clinic b/c anyone can go to a healthsouth. I agree with you, though, as I had an internship at a healthsouth in Miami that helped out the Miami Heat in the 90's...so high level athletes do use their facilities...

Exactly. The post is laced with bias and is certainly not objective.

 

[IluvJuMiami]

All reports I've read point to an piece of cartilage that was behind Culpepper's knee as the source of his problems, not any functional issue with the knee or rehab. The team doctors cleared Culpepper to play, but he was suffering from continuing pain. If there's additional information I don't have on the subject I apologize for my ignorance, but from everything I've heard since the second surgery things should be fine for next year.

Did you miss the reports of him not continuing his rehabilitation as the season got closer because they were concentrating on preparing for games? Nobody knows if the person who posted the thread actually works in the field of medicine but he makes a plethora of sense. I'm not in the field myself but I'm guessing that if a broken bone or torn tissue or w/e the case may be doesn't heal correctly, theres no way of going back and healing it again.

 

[Redneck Friend]

i agree, he is over!!

not so much his knee, but he just has lost it.

it happens. qb's and kickers. when it is over, it is almost
an over night thing. it just is over, there done.

saban most likely will be back [unfortunately] and if he
hitches himself to duante again, we are doomed, even
worse than this year!!

SO THE VIKES COACH WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL HUH?

he was unhappy that duante wanted to do his own rehab
at home in florida. he BEGGED DUANTE not to do it, that he
needed the EXPERTISE of the team trainers who KNOW HOW
to rehab those injuries. and if you DONT DO IT, and you dont
get on it right away, the chances of a full or successful recovery
are nill.

and how has all this worked out for duante?

i guess the vikes coach who is SUCH THE HATER knew what was
good for duante after all.

go figure!!

 

[PerfectFinz72]

i agree, he is over!!

not so much his knee, but he just has lost it.

it happens. qb's and kickers. when it is over, it is almost
an over night thing. it just is over, there done.

saban most likely will be back [unfortunately] and if he
hitches himself to duante again, we are doomed, even
worse than this year!!

SO THE VIKES COACH WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL HUH?

he was unhappy that duante wanted to do his own rehab
at home in florida. he BEGGED DUANTE not to do it, that he
needed the EXPERTISE of the team trainers who KNOW HOW
to rehab those injuries. and if you DONT DO IT, and you dont
get on it right away, the chances of a full or successful recovery
are nill.

and how has all this worked out for duante?

i guess the vikes coach who is SUCH THE HATER knew what was
good for duante after all.

go figure!!

I'd like to see him 100% healthy going into next season before someone says "he's done". Thats jumping the gun a bit dont you think? I'm sorry, but alot of the Daunte hate now probably reflects on the fact that Harrington is playing decent. I'm sure some are sold that Harrington is the future or can lead this team to a super bowl. Well, I doubt that highly because just like Fiedler/Feeley/Frerotte/Rosenfels/Griese/Lucas he's not a TRUE caliber starting QB and is always prone to making the BIG mistake. I like Joey and whats he's done this year, but I still want to see Daunte get a shot before he's written off.