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For how bad AJ looked, and PFF's very low score for his game, I was struck by how positive AJ was of his own performance, and even more so Flores in his day after presser after reviewing the film. Not only did Flores say only positive things, but his tone suggested sincerity. We know:
- Quinn is an outside speed guy
- you can deal with that pressure as a qb as long as you -never- allow middle pressure

So, putting the pieces together, is it possible Flores told Jackson, do not lose to the inside at all costs? We'll live with the outside pressure as long as you provide some semblance of resistance. And this was born out by 0 sacks and Tua really having enough time to throw on every play. PFF would grade this poorly tactically snap-per-snap, but perhaps the war was actually won there.
 
Coolguy3 said:
It’s not just about giving up sacks but also about allowing disruption of the timing of the plays and forcing Tua to move around instead of setting his feet and making a throw.
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I agree to a certain point, but if you watch a lot of other teams play its incredibly rare any QB has time to sit in the pocket consistently.

Defenses are much too complex and athletic for that these days. That is why there is so much short passing and legs on a QB have become such a big deal. Not for running, but for manipulating the pocket.
 
The PFF ratings are pretty bad most of the time, and the thread author did a good job explaining why that is... PFF has no idea what each lineman was asked to do... none whatsoever.

It also bears mentioning that Jesse Davis posted a 80+ rating at PFF and about one third of the posters here still think he is horrible somehow... and oddly, some of these same posters will point out Jackson's poor PFF score and then proceed to totally ignore Davis' score.

Hypocrisy abounds.
 
Flo is a leader and teacher. He has a bigger picture in mind, not an OMG we suck, doom and gloom drama-fan reactor.

He doesn’t develop players through public criticism. He understands that was game 1 in preseason.

I hear it again and again in player interviews. We will watch the film, see what changes need to be made, and work on them.
 
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GhostArmOfMarino said:
If Jackson ranks poorly every game but doesn't give up a sack I'll be fine with that honestly.
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I'd much rather see Jackson give up 10 sacks and the offense be able to execute play designs than to have to have another year of trainer wheels offense because your line doesn't allow time for plays to develop.

Rt was hampered for years by no ol and no running game. We're just repeating the same exact thing.
 
Sirspud said:
I'd much rather see Jackson give up 10 sacks and the offense be able to execute play designs than to have to have another year of trainer wheels offense because your line doesn't allow time for plays to develop.

Rt was hampered for years by no ol and no running game. We're just repeating the same exact thing.
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Like I said in my second post, that's just really rare in the NFL today.

I think a lot of people here have offensive line expectations based on 10 to 20 years ago.

When I watch around the league almost every team is giving up pressure fairly consistently. Its just too hard when the defense only needs one man to win on a given pass rush and the offensive line needs all five players to win.

Its more about not letting that pressure come from more than one angle on a given play so your QB can move in the pocket.
 
My point of view is that this team will only go as far as the OL allows it to go. I am not worried about Tua, the receivers, the RB’s or the defense. Those units and Tua are good enough to win enough games to get into the playoffs.

I have no idea if the OL will develop into an average unit which should be enough considering the talent on the rest of the roster. I am not going to give up on the OL after one preseason game but the OL obviously needs to play much better once the regular season begins than they did against the Bears.
 
1972forever said:
My point of view is that this team will only go as far as the OL allows it to go. I am not worried about Tua, the receivers, the RB’s or the defense. Those units and Tua are good enough to win enough games to get into the playoffs.

I have no idea if the OL will develop into an average unit which should be enough considering the talent on the rest of the roster. I am not going to give up on the OL after one preseason game but the OL obviously needs to play much better once the regular season begins than they did against the Bears.
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Any NFL QB is good enough to win if you give them all day to throw.

Our line against the Bears...that is what your average NFL pass protection looks like against a good unit.

I have no idea what some people here expect (don't mean you personally your expectations seem realistic enough) ...and it seems like noone will be happy until we have the great wall of China surrounded by an electrified fence that shoots out flying sharks protecting Tua.
 
Feverdream said:
The PFF ratings are pretty bad most of the time, and the thread author did a good job explaining why that is... PFF has no idea what each lineman was asked to do... none whatsoever.

It also bears mentioning that Jesse Davis posted a 80+ rating at PFF and about one third of the posters here still think he is horrible somehow... and oddly, some of these same posters will point out Jackson's poor PFF score and then proceed to totally ignore Davis' score.

Hypocrisy abounds.
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IMO Davis is a lot like Bobby McCain in that he is a decent player that has the tendency to get caught looking stupid on game film. It makes it easier to point fingers and lay the blame on him when it’s really not entirely his fault.
 
isaacjunk said:
For how bad AJ looked, and PFF's very low score for his game, I was struck by how positive AJ was of his own performance, and even more so Flores in his day after presser after reviewing the film. Not only did Flores say only positive things, but his tone suggested sincerity. We know:
- Quinn is an outside speed guy
- you can deal with that pressure as a qb as long as you -never- allow middle pressure

So, putting the pieces together, is it possible Flores told Jackson, do not lose to the inside at all costs? We'll live with the outside pressure as long as you provide some semblance of resistance. And this was born out by 0 sacks and Tua really having enough time to throw on every play. PFF would grade this poorly tactically snap-per-snap, but perhaps the war was actually won there.
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How did he do in the run game?
 
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