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Dallas - Bad QB, Good Offensive Line = 7 losses. Good QB+ Good Line = Win

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I know it's a small sample size, but think about this for a second. Dallas is touted as having one of the leagues best lines. Two bad QB's played behind this line and accumulated 7 losses in a row. Romo (above average QB with injury) comes back and plays behind same line and gets a win. If Miami's line played better, would we still be an average team? I bring this topic up because most people claim that if our line played better, our QB play would improve.

Is it possible that an average QB is an average QB behind any line? Weeden and Cassell could not function behind that Dallas line with a running game because they are below average QB's and it's hard for a tiger to change it's stripes. Just proposing a discussion topic because I've been thinking about this situation. Would we get average QB play regardless of the line he is behind? I know there are some that will say that when he has had time, he has played well. There are also others that say when he has had time, he still takes stupid sacks or lacks playmaking ability. What do you think?
 
Elle Clouds said:
I know it's a small sample size, but think about this for a second. Dallas is touted as having one of the leagues best lines. Two bad QB's played behind this line and accumulated 7 losses in a row. Romo (above average QB with injury) comes back and plays behind same line and gets a win. If Miami's line played better, would we still be an average team? I bring this topic up because most people claim that if our line played better, our QB play would improve.

Is it possible that an average QB is an average QB behind any line? Weeden and Cassell could not function behind that Dallas line with a running game because they are below average QB's and it's hard for a tiger to change it's stripes. Just proposing a discussion topic because I've been thinking about this situation. Would we get average QB play regardless of the line he is behind? I know there are some that will say that when he has had time, he has played well. There are also others that say when he has had time, he still takes stupid sacks or lacks playmaking ability. What do you think?
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Above average? Romo's a Pro Bowler and arguably a top 5 QB in this league.
 
Up until this point, Tannehill has done little to show he would be elite given an excellent OL. Now, if your question is would he play better if we had a decent OL I think even the biggest Tannehill hater would say... duh.

Not sure what you're getting at but it's OBVIOUS that we need a much better OL. Tannehill is here for another season, for better or worse, and OL is one of our biggest weaknesses so it needs to be addressed regardless.

Our GM has done a **** job of addressing our weaknesses coming into the season - OL, LB, overall depth - and it's shown.
 
Romo was not that good yesterday though the love fest has started.

Here is what I say…Tannehill needs to start getting better. If he does, this team has a chance. The QB needs to give more here.
 
Tannehill is mediocre at best. Bottom 15. The guy is just not that dude, our 3rd down stats are all i need to see. The guy can't deliver when a QB is needed the most, 3rd down and 4th quarter. Really is that simple for me.

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Above average? Romo's a Pro Bowler and arguably a top 5 QB in this league.
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I wouldn't say top 5 but def top 10.

Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, Flacco, Brees are all better.
 
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When Miami tied it up and gained momentum back Dallas needed their QB to step up and get points when needed. Romo did that. With an 80yd drive.

When Miami needed 10 points in the 4th our QB took a sack to kill the drive and once again Tannehill failed to step up and make something happen when needed most. He doesn't have clutch in his DNA.

Can he learn this? His deep ball has improved, maybe he can improve his clutch play as well. But at this point he doesn't have it. He's average. And until then we'll continue to be.


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I've made a similar point in a few other threads. What I noticed was that even with the consensus "best offensive line in football", Romo was still under a lot of pressure yesterday. What I noticed in relation to Romo was his ability to overcome the pressure. The left-handed throw to avoid the safety was a huge play in the game. He was dead-to-rights stuck for a safety that would have been huge momentum for Miami, and he escaped with an amazing improvisational play.

My point is, there is no magical offensive line of five Pro Bowlers that is going to come in and protect Tannehill. Even the best offensive lines in football get shredded sometimes. Tannehill has to learn how to deal with the pressure. He has to keep moving and shifting in the pocket the way the best QBs in football - Romo, Brady, Rodgers, etc. - do it. Tannehill basically picks his spot for his drop and stays rooted to the ground. He rarely moves until it is too late.
 
Romo was sacked twice, Tannehill 3 times, and both were hit 6 times. Hmmm.
 
I do not think you can learn to be "clutch." You can however learn to not stare down the receiver. If RT could just stop that one thing, and improve pocket presence just a little, I would be happy.
 
good players + good coaches - dumb fans = a better world
 
So are we now going to have a million threads by Elle bashing Tannehill? Already have 2 that I know if within 24 hours. At least don't duplicate threads with the same idea
 
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