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Darlington: People in the Dolphins organization think Tua mailed it in

GRYPHONK said:
When did I ever say it was a good contract. Stop with the nonsense. One can believe it was a bad contract but not worst. One could also realize neither Burrow nor Herbert were worth a 2nd contract so it's pointless still whining about the pick

This is why these message boards truly suck. My god. It's either this or that. No nuance no context.

I say I like Oranges. You're response "Why do you hate apples" it's truly pathetic
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Yawn...............

How about contributing something interesting instead of pissing and moaning about what you don't like about fans? Who made you the arbiter of what is nuanced?

If not, why don't you go somewhere else if you don't like this message board?
 
Finswatch said:
Yawn...............

How about contributing something interesting instead of pissing and moaning about what you don't like about fans? Who made you the arbiter of what is nuanced?

If not, why don't you go somewhere else if you don't like this message board?
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Make better posts and I won't have to piss and moan. Stop making straw man arguments and enhance the conversation.

Toodles for now.
 
GRYPHONK said:
Make better posts and I won't have to piss and moan. Stop making straw man arguments and enhance the conversation.

Toodles for now.
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When do you start making better posts?

Here's some nuance for you, genius. Tua is shot mentally and physically and checked out last year because things got too tough for him. Two things can be true at the same time, there's your nuance.

I'm just not into the bullshit from fans that his crash in 2025 was because of his mechanics declining, or that he was disillusioned or unhappy because his coaches didn't prepare the team properly. All the excuses are in writing in this forum, largely from a handful of fans.

You can support that all you want but to claim these posts weren't made or that I'm embellishing these fans' points, you're either ignorant of full of ****.
 
GRYPHONK said:
When did I ever say it was a good contract. Stop with the nonsense. One can believe it was a bad contract but not worst. One could also realize neither Burrow nor Herbert were worth a 2nd contract so it's pointless still whining about the pick

This is why these message boards truly suck. My god. It's either this or that. No nuance no context.

I say I like Oranges. You're response "Why do you hate apples" it's truly pathetic
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And if I had wheels I could be a wagon. Own your words. You outright said the following.

**Drafting him wasnt the problem. The 2nd contract turned out bad. But it's truly ridiculous to include it as one of the worst contracts in NFL history**

Of course it was the problem, it was obvious to many people it was a bad pick. As for the contract I'm hard pressed to come up with another player that is going to cost his team 99M in dead cap.

**Albert Haynesworth/Russel Wilson/ Dak Prescott are just a few deals off the top of my head that are or were worse. Then you can look at guys like Bell/Snead/ Flynn/Foles etc. That's just a silly talking point**

Haynesworth for his entire contract only paid out 35M over 4 years with the redskins and the pats. Prescott? Has been a lot better than Tua. Russell Wilson cost 55M in dead cap.

Pathetic is people stating the obvious and having people such as yourself and a few of the remaining Tuanon members insist they are still somehow right and the entire message board is wrong.

I'll make is easy, TUA was the wrong pick. Giving him 2nd contract is what got everyone fired.
 
Mr Fan said:
And if I had wheels I could be a wagon. Own your words. You outright said the following.

**Drafting him wasnt the problem. The 2nd contract turned out bad. But it's truly ridiculous to include it as one of the worst contracts in NFL history**

Of course it was the problem, it was obvious to many people it was a bad pick. As for the contract I'm hard pressed to come up with another player that is going to cost his team 99M in dead cap.

**Albert Haynesworth/Russel Wilson/ Dak Prescott are just a few deals off the top of my head that are or were worse. Then you can look at guys like Bell/Snead/ Flynn/Foles etc. That's just a silly talking point**

Haynesworth for his entire contract only paid out 35M over 4 years with the redskins and the pats. Prescott? Has been a lot better than Tua. Russell Wilson cost 55M in dead cap.

Pathetic is people stating the obvious and having people such as yourself and a few of the remaining Tuanon members insist they are still somehow right and the entire message board is wrong.

I'll make is easy, TUA was the wrong pick. Giving him 2nd contract is what got everyone fired.
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Miami is likely to have one of the biggest dead cap hits in NFL history because of the brain dead second deal they gave Tua but according to a fan who understands things we don't, "it's truly ridiculous to include it as one of the worst contracts in NFL history"

Um, OK. Dak Prescott is still a good QB in the league, what is Tua? Did Flynn or Foles get anything close to what Turndaballova got? Matt Flynn didn't get an AAV of $53 mil, not even close, nor did Foles. And Denver bounced right back from the Russ Wilson mistake, which as Mr Fan pointed out correctly, is a little more than half as big as the Tua mess the Dolphins will have to deal with.

Does Gryphunk know what "truly" or "ridiculous" or "worst" really means? Maybe there's some nuance in that Tua contract most of us are missing.
 
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Mr Fan said:
And if I had wheels I could be a wagon. Own your words. You outright said the following.

**Drafting him wasnt the problem. The 2nd contract turned out bad. But it's truly ridiculous to include it as one of the worst contracts in NFL history**

Of course it was the problem, it was obvious to many people it was a bad pick. As for the contract I'm hard pressed to come up with another player that is going to cost his team 99M in dead cap.

**Albert Haynesworth/Russel Wilson/ Dak Prescott are just a few deals off the top of my head that are or were worse. Then you can look at guys like Bell/Snead/ Flynn/Foles etc. That's just a silly talking point**

Haynesworth for his entire contract only paid out 35M over 4 years with the redskins and the pats. Prescott? Has been a lot better than Tua. Russell Wilson cost 55M in dead cap.

Pathetic is people stating the obvious and having people such as yourself and a few of the remaining Tuanon members insist they are still somehow right and the entire message board is wrong.

I'll make is easy, TUA was the wrong pick. Giving him 2nd contract is what got everyone fired.
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Dak is playing at a high level imo, how is that bad?
 
Finswatch said:
Miami is likely to have one of the biggest dead cap hits in NFL history because of the brain dead second deal they gave Tua but according to a fan who understands things we don't, "it's truly ridiculous to include it as one of the worst contracts in NFL history"

Um, OK. Dak Prescott is still a good QB in the league, what is Tua? Did Flynn or Foles get anything close to what Turndaballova got? Matt Flynn didn't get an AAV of $53 mil, not even close, nor did Foles. And Denver bounced right back from the Russ Wilson mistake, which as Mr Fan pointed out correctly, is a little more than half as big as the Tua mess the Dolphins will have to deal with.

Does Gryphunk know what "truly" or "ridiculous" or "worst" really means? Maybe there's some nuance in that Tua contract most of us are missing.
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So long
 
djphinfan said:
Can’t be.. I mean can be , but no way lol
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Listen man. I strongly disagree with you on Tuas commitment and work ethics prior to last season.

But bro, I truly respect you as a poster and like the other 98% of your posts lol. Don't know why I'm writing this. Just wanna make sure I let the people I respect and like know haha. Guess I'm old and having a moment.

There's others like SFMIAMI/LOCO/ANDY/TRAVIS/13MARINO/AVIATOR/DOLFAN/GOAT/GHOST/IKEMA and others can't name all of you. ANYONE of you all that take the time with all your draft analysis thanks. Believe it or not even Rico. He was right there with me on the O line fight. Surprise..... Mach also.... When it's not about Tua.

I know I can't say guys/girls like GhostIreland and MR Fan are on the opposite side. So I won't say it.
 
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