Davone Bess Does Not Need To Return Any More Punts
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Dr. Phin
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Bess is quickly dropping in status...
I agree that you can't keep dropping the ball like he has the last couple games. Not just as a returner either. His fumble against the Saints was key in that game too.
But, I am hoping, that unlike other players I can think of, he will get his act together...
I agree that you can't keep dropping the ball like he has the last couple games. Not just as a returner either. His fumble against the Saints was key in that game too.
But, I am hoping, that unlike other players I can think of, he will get his act together...
insomnia411
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I totally agree. He fumbled too and it just didn't get called.
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Does this mean the Bess obsession is gone? What happened to that 12 year old kid who kept making the Bess Chuck Norris type jokes?
Dolphan23
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Not a good game for him at all on both accounts (returning and receiving) if it wasn't for Henne snapping the ball after that would be fumble if the Jets had time to review it...we would have been in a s*** storm of trouble...put Teddy in as the punt returner...Bess is not producing like he should be...2nd week in a row...not happy with that at all.
Clipse
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I agree. I've been wanting Ginn back on PR's for quite awhile now. And it really has nothing to do with Bess's muffed punt. I've seen Ginn muff em before too. But Bess has 0 ability to make a play. Ginn is a playmaker as a return guy and needs to take over PR duties as well.
The problem with that Bess fumble is once the Jets scored a TD their confidence soared on offense. It's like the clamp had been broken.
I didn't realize how that works until I moved to Las Vegas and started evaluating situations in regard to outcomes. It doesn't matter if the margin stayed the same from 17-6 to 24-13, after Bess's fumble then Ginn's second return. The Jets were in far superior mindset at 24-13 than 17-6. They knew they could score, and we were damn near burned at the end. It would have been devastating to lose a game after two 100+ yard kickoff returns plus a fumble return TD.
Bess gets plenty of praise on this board but he's the type of player who needs to be replaced, if the aspirations are high. I look at it from a standpoint as a Canes fan. That team has a half dozen skill position guys who are superior to Davone Bess. It saved Miami's butt yesterday against Wake Forest, when the receivers Aldarius Johnson and Travis Benjamin made big plays in the final two minutes to bail out the game after being completely outplayed. In many ways the Dolphins and Canes are opposites, the Dolphins far more rugged but the Canes with superior weaponry. When I step back and look at the Dolphin receivers piece by piece, it's a joke. There's no chance I would trade even up for the Canes receivers, that's for sure.
I didn't realize how that works until I moved to Las Vegas and started evaluating situations in regard to outcomes. It doesn't matter if the margin stayed the same from 17-6 to 24-13, after Bess's fumble then Ginn's second return. The Jets were in far superior mindset at 24-13 than 17-6. They knew they could score, and we were damn near burned at the end. It would have been devastating to lose a game after two 100+ yard kickoff returns plus a fumble return TD.
Bess gets plenty of praise on this board but he's the type of player who needs to be replaced, if the aspirations are high. I look at it from a standpoint as a Canes fan. That team has a half dozen skill position guys who are superior to Davone Bess. It saved Miami's butt yesterday against Wake Forest, when the receivers Aldarius Johnson and Travis Benjamin made big plays in the final two minutes to bail out the game after being completely outplayed. In many ways the Dolphins and Canes are opposites, the Dolphins far more rugged but the Canes with superior weaponry. When I step back and look at the Dolphin receivers piece by piece, it's a joke. There's no chance I would trade even up for the Canes receivers, that's for sure.
maybe we should just take him out whenever we have a lead. Really Bess is a great role player, but I think after today maybe it wouldn't hurt to have Teddy return the punts too. I know he doesn't have as much lateral quickness as Bess but his pure speed makes up for it
Smith21
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Bess was good in college, so was ginn, turner was the #1 highschool recruited receiver. i think you are confused..
I was thiking along the same lines. I think the best thing for this team is having young players that play a role for the team and put everything they have into that. Bess is a slot receiver... let him do that and that ONLY!
Likewise, Ginn is an excellent returner of footballs. Let him do that and that ONLY!
These young players have enough on their plates to succeed in the NFL and on this team. Let them succeed before we put more on their plate.
Speaking of more on plates, Rex Ryan is looking for a hot dog he was saving for after the game... he knows he is an obsessive eater when things aren't going well and he has suspicions that his boy toy might have taken it.
So its safe to say that you want Ginn having no reps at WR and do all the returns and Bess as the third WR in 3 WR sets.
I'm guessin we role with Hartline and Camarillo as the starters?
I'm sorry, thats not going to work. I am going to tell you like I told my friend . . . if this Dolphins offense ever wants to live up to its fullest potential . . . Ted Ginn Jr., like him or not, needs to be a big part of it. Hartline/Turner both could be decent opposite of him (obviously Hartline right now) and Bess/Camarillo are solid slot guys . . . but Ginn Jr. needs to step up as a WR for this offense to be great. He shows flashes, but is still too inconsistent . . . hopefully this changes as the season goes on.