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Defending Tedd Ginn Jr and His Rookie Year

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This morning I opened up Lindys 2008 Pro Footballs Draft Guide, and on page 4, the magazine makes the following quote about California’s Junior WR DeSean Jackson while discussing underclassmen rankings for the upcoming NFL draft…

“…is a big play threat as a receiver and return man. NFL teams just hope he’s not the second coming of Ted Ginn, Jr.â€

Now I will admit that I would have bet my life that Miami was going to draft Brady Quinn with their first round pick last year when they were on the clock, and a part of me wishes that I could go back in time and change that first pick to Quinn because the quarterback position has been so elusive for Miami since Dan Marino retired. Being that it was the ninth overall pick, and the fact that every analyst out there was equally blown away by what they called a “reach’ of a pick for someone who has health issues, it was eventually conceded on television that this is a copycat league, and the emergence of Devin Hester with the Bears influenced Miami to follow suit.

Cam Cameron did himself no favors when his first media comment about the pick of Ted Ginn was how happy fans would be with Ted’s “contributions on special teams as a returner.†This franchise needs a quarterback in the worse way, but for Cameron to pick Ginn when arguably the best QB on the board literally falls in your lap, then to say “contributions on special teams†instead of something to the affect of“a exciting explosive new offensive weapon†certainly put Ted Ginns rookie campaign in a very precarious situation.

To no fault of his own, Ted Ginn Jr had expectations cast upon him last year by some fans and experts more or less indicated “you better be five times better than Devin Hester or you’re a bust.†Had Ginn been a second round pick for Miami, obviously the pick would have made sense and been much more digestible for fans and analyst alike. Cameron was the first offensive minded head coach this team had seen since Shula, and we all knew he would shake things up in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.

So you can argue all day long whether or not the Dolphins made the right decision by selecting Ginn over Quinn, but in my opinion you cannot say Ginn is a bust, and a bad NFL player. It’s way too early to take such a sour stance. Maybe five years from now after Ginn, Beck and Quinn have been seasoned starters; we can fairly look back and decide what the better decision was. Ginn had a good rookie year, it was not outstanding at a pro bowl level, but I would give his rookie year a grade of A minus overall.

In my opinion, rookie WRs have the much difficult time transitioning to the NFL game than most positions, and very rarely do you see a rookie step in at the WR position and take command of the game. This is exactly why in the world of fantasy football, analyst and experts always which receivers entering their 3rd year will finally breakout.

Ginn will only improve as he gains more experience and both the quarterback position and offensive line stabilizes and becomes respectable. Given his rookie year was part of the 2007 leagues worst team and the constant change at QB & offensive line, injuries to Ronnie Brown, and trade of Chambers, Ginn was asked to exceed the goals of his original rookie year, and he did so more or less.

Since the day he was drafted, I have likened him to Carolinas Steve Smith for a few reasons.

They are small receivers similar in size, have tremendous breakaway speed, demonstrated big play potential at wide out and kickoff/punt returns in college, and are a threat to take it to a house each time they touch the ball.

On the flip side, Steve Smith has certain intangibles that Ginn currently does not possess. Smith is a much better route runner, plays injured, about 10lbs heaver, and is physically stronger. So for Ginn to continue to develop as an elite NFL receiver, he must work on route running, avoid injuries, and be more decisive on kickoff returns. Ginn appeared pensive on kickoff returns but much more aggressive on punt returns for whatever reason.

From a rookie season standpoint, Ted Ginn outperformed Steve Smith statistically in most categories. Where Steve Smith separated himself from Ginn is holding advantages in yards per reception, and average yards per kickoff and punt returns. Ginn ranked sixth in the entire NFL last year on punt return average and scored three TDs on punt returns, with two of those TDs negated by penalties.

So Ginn supported Cameron’s instincts for drafting him although it will be always argued about the timing of the pick. Ginn would have never made it to the Dolphins second round pick that is for sure.

Let’s compare rookie statistics between Steve Smith and Ted Ginn Jr…

Receptions-Ginn-34---Smith-10
Reception Yards-Ginn-420---Smith-154
Avg per Reception-Ginn-12.4---Smith-15.4
Total kickoff/punt returns-Ginn-87---Smith-90
Kickoff/Punt yards-Ginn-1,663---Smith-1,795
Avg per Return-Ginn-19.1---Smith-19.9
Returns for TDs-Ginn-1---Smith-3…Ginn had two more called back due to penalties
Total TDs-Ginn-3---Smith-3
Total Offensive Yards-Ginn-2,083---Smith-1,949
Average per Touch-Ginn-17.2---Smith19.4

We all know what kind of stud Steve Smith is in the NFL, and he may or may not be the right athlete to compare Ted Ginn. But given the pressure and disdain placed on Ginn for being picked over Quinn last year, its way too early to say Ginn will not become a very good WR and return specialist for the Miami Dolphins for years to come. I for one am rooting for Ted Ginn Jr.

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I do not mean to be praching to the choir, that quote from that magazine really rubbed me the wrong way and got me fired up. I feel like most Dolphin fans like Ginn, but we were all blown away when it happened.
 
i still say there was a spelling mess up at the time of that draft...ginn/quinn. or that the comish did not have his glasses on when he read our pick. i myself did not want quinn and like stated ginn wouldve been a good pick in the 2nd or even a late first but not with the number 9 when there were so many other issues that needed adressing.
 
I am glad we have Ginn, just wished it hadn't come with the 9th overall. But if he turns out to get 1,000 yds rec/1,000+ kick returning, maybe we will forget that we took him too early. =)

I think he will emerge as a great downfield threat.
 
You also have to take into account that Steve Smith most certainly had a better supporting cast both on special teams and on offense. Ginn had a horrid (to be nice) special teams unit to work behind, and no quarterback to get him the ball. There were many times Ginn was WIDE open. You can tell how bad the special teams unit was when Armstrong mentioned that they were in trouble, and Parcells has COMPLETELY revamped the unit
 
You also have to take into account that Steve Smith most certainly had a better supporting cast both on special teams and on offense. Ginn had a horrid (to be nice) special teams unit to work behind, and no quarterback to get him the ball. There were many times Ginn was WIDE open. You can tell how bad the special teams unit was when Armstrong mentioned that they were in trouble, and Parcells has COMPLETELY revamped the unit
even with our horrindous special teams play last year ginn ran what 4 or 5 back(unfortunately only one counted). since he was drafted i had been saying he would be a great reciever for us. i never understood why cam was only concerned with his st play but i am anxious to see what he does with a st group that is better than what we fielded last yr.
 
Ginn is not a bust overall, but put him next to Patrick Willis, and it was a bust of a pick.
 
even with our horrindous special teams play last year ginn ran what 4 or 5 back(unfortunately only one counted). since he was drafted i had been saying he would be a great reciever for us. i never understood why cam was only concerned with his st play but i am anxious to see what he does with a st group that is better than what we fielded last yr.
exactly!
 
Good post, I was surprised at first when Quinn was passed on, but Ginn has the capability to succeed in the league.
 
Ginn is not a bust overall, but put him next to Patrick Willis, and it was a bust of a pick.

well if you compare him to arguably the best pick in the draft of course he's gonna look bad. thats like saying everyone drafted before antonio cromartie or joseph addai is a bust. reggie bush, mario williams, vince young, vernon davis.. all busts when placed next to addai and cromartie? i think not
 
I think Ginn is a decent player. Quite honestly though, I don't think he was worth a first round pick though. They could've still gotten him in a later round and picked up a player that was needed more.
 
I knew we wouldn't pick Quinn. There was way tooooooo much info out there about how Miami loooooooved Quinn. That's like drawing a Royal Flush at a poker table and telling everybody you have it. Now try and get them to bet. I didn't know we would pick Ginn, but I liked the pick then and I like the pick now. Ginn will be one of the best(barring injury). Quinn's slide to the mid 20's showed he was over rated. Quinn will be a journeyman bench warmer. He did a good job warming the bench in Cleveland last year. Look for more of the same this year.
 
Why are there so many threads defending Ted Ginn Jr.? Whose criticizing him on this board? He did very well his rookie season, especially considering the instability / horrendous play at the QB position. He did what rookies are supposed to do, which is to show flashes of potential and what we can hope to consistently expect in the future. Unlike another Dolphins rookie...
 
I agree. In a few years we can look back and judge, but for a rookie wr on a horrible team, he did ok. And he improved measurably through the season. I see no reason he won't continue that trend this year and next. Usually it's three years for wr's to really shine. I just think he had the unrealistic expectations you noted by being picked #9, and before Quinn. Since he didn't live up to that, the bust label gets applied way too liberally.

In the end, he'll be fine, imo. He may never live up to the #9 expectations, but we have a pretty good player, who hopefully will be here a while.
 
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