Deiter And Van Ginkel Hype Video

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Thanks @BigNastyFish , always enjoy John Congemi's analysis, even if these days everything is really short for phones and Facebook. I hope he's right about Van Ginkel … because I saw him get very little pressure that wasn't schemed up, so I'm not sure he's really an edge rusher. Van Ginkel tests well, and he does his job, so this is a good scheme fit for him. Not sure he'll beat out Jerome Baker or Kiko Alonso though, so we may see him mostly on special teams this year.

Michael Deiter though, I'm a huge fan, and am confident he will anchor our LG position for the next decade. Great pick. He is smart, hard working, big, strong, physical, fairly quick, and unbelievably durable … an ability we've needed across the OL for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
I feel like Miami moved the needle a little on both lines. I think Wilkins will be very good, potentially elite. Deiter should at least be solid, perhaps a little better than that. Would have liked more progress on both lines, but I get the Rosen trade. Hopefully, that works out. I think a NE type offense is actually a really good fit for him. Getting the ball out quickly could somewhat disguise the weakness on the right side of the line.
 

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Deiter generally looked fine until he lined up against Ohio State. Those athletes and schemes exposed his weaknesses fairly regularly.

I'd say he needs to bend his knees another inch or two during pass blocking. When's he's high and forward he's got problems. Can't adjust quick enough. But that was more true at tackle than guard or center. We won't be seeing him at tackle. At least I hope not.

Deiter reminds me somewhat of Jeff Toews, a second round Dolphins guard from about 40 years ago. I always try to think of same-team reference based on frame and playing style. Toews was drafted as guard but had played tackle in college at Washington. Athletic ability is similar. Small edge to Deiter, who is also a couple of inches taller.

When drafted everyone had similarly high hopes for the first rounder Jon Giesler along with Toews. But the Dolphins screwed up by taking the safer less athletic guy Giesler over Kent Hill, who was the next tackle off the board by the Rams just two picks later. Hill had a great career with 5 Pro Bowls. That is a Dolphins draft history gaffe that is seldom talked about, amidst all the other high profile screw ups. I guess you have to be of a certain age to remember the pre draft debate between Giesler and Hill. It seemed obvious the Dolphins would take an offensive lineman. One of the reasons I'm never thrilled with taking offensive linemen early is that I fully remember all those prior years when it was our priority. It worked out in 1990 but not before or since. Everyone was shocked when Dwight Stephenson fell that far in 1980. It was more of a value pick that Shula wisely took advantage of, more than predetermined positional need.
 

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Deiter generally looked fine until he lined up against Ohio State. Those athletes and schemes exposed his weaknesses fairly regularly.

I'd say he needs to bend his knees another inch or two during pass blocking. When's he's high and forward he's got problems. Can't adjust quick enough. But that was more true at tackle than guard or center. We won't be seeing him at tackle. At least I hope not.

Deiter reminds me somewhat of Jeff Toews, a second round Dolphins guard from about 40 years ago. I always try to think of same-team reference based on frame and playing style. Toews was drafted as guard but had played tackle in college at Washington. Athletic ability is similar. Small edge to Deiter, who is also a couple of inches taller.

When drafted everyone had similarly high hopes for the first rounder Jon Giesler along with Toews. But the Dolphins screwed up by taking the safer less athletic guy Giesler over Kent Hill, who was the next tackle off the board by the Rams just two picks later. Hill had a great career with 5 Pro Bowls. That is a Dolphins draft history gaffe that is seldom talked about, amidst all the other high profile screw ups. I guess you have to be of a certain age to remember the pre draft debate between Giesler and Hill. It seemed obvious the Dolphins would take an offensive lineman. One of the reasons I'm never thrilled with taking offensive linemen early is that I fully remember all those prior years when it was our priority. It worked out in 1990 but not before or since. Everyone was shocked when Dwight Stephenson fell that far in 1980. It was more of a value pick that Shula wisely took advantage of, more than predetermined positional need.
I remember Toews and Gisler. Gisler was a good OT but he wasn't a great OT. He was lucky tho to play in a line that has Stephenson, Ed Newman and Bob Kuechenburg.
 

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I remember Toews and Gisler. Gisler was a good OT but he wasn't a great OT. He was lucky tho to play in a line that has Stephenson, Ed Newman and Bob Kuechenburg.
Yes, Giesler was a solid player. It was still a stretch in which the Dolphins were taking high character guys and avoiding risks, after the gambles with athletic types like Donald Reese and Daryl Carlton backfired in a big way due to off field issues.

The 1977 draft with Duhe and Bokamper was the first transition to high character emphasis. I liked those 1977 picks but I was in disbelief when we took Guy Benjamin first the following year, even though it was a second round pick. We had already shipped away a great talent in Freddie Solomon along with our #1 pick in the Delvin Williams deal, and now we take a quarterback with no arm in Guy Benjamin. Unbelievable. He was like an early Todd Marinovich type but righthanded and no oddities.

I remember I wanted Derrick Jensen with that second round pick. Fullbacks were prized commodities in that era. Csonka had not returned. The three fullbacks I liked were Johnny Davis of Alabama, Derrick Jensen of Texas-Arlington, and Dennis Johnson of Mississippi State. We knew all about Jensen despite the small college status. it was hardly the dark ages of draftniking, not matter what conventional wisdom holds. Davis was already long gone early in the second round. Johnson was more narrow than ideal for a fullback. So I hoped for Jensen and was ticked when we took Benjamin. Then Jensen was taken early third round by the Raiders and had a nice long career. He died sadly a couple of years ago from ALS.

That 1978 draft was actually very good other than Benjamin. It was obvious from the outset. Everyone loved the later picks because they included name brands like Jimmy Cefalo and Bruce Hardy, who had been on the Sports Illustrated cover while in high school. The unexpected bonus was Doug Betters but likewise he was near the top of all the sleeper lists so that pick was applauded from the outset.

BTW, Jeff Toews looks like "Toes" but was actually pronounced "Taves." I'm sure Danny remembers that but younger posters would not realize it.
 
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