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Do the Los Angeles Chargers or Miami Dolphins have a brighter future?

The Chargers are basically starting over with a new head coach and new coordinators. They had a lot of injured players last year, including Boza. Like the Dolphins, they have a lot of young talented players and several holes to fill on their roster.

At this point I would rather be the Dolphins simply because Flores has also showed he is a good head coach and the players have bought into his system. It is still to be determined if the Chargers have hired a good head coach or not.
 
1972forever said:
The Chargers are basically starting over with a new head coach and new coordinators. They had a lot of injured players last year, including Boza. Like the Dolphins, they have a lot of young talented players and several holes to fill on their roster.

At this point I would rather be the Dolphins simply because Flores has also showed he is a good head coach and the players have bought into his system. It is still to be determined if the Chargers have hired a good head coach or not.
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Chargers always (to me) are one of those teams that the media overrates their talent every year and they always end up having a disappointing year. Which always goes back to Philip Rivers being highly overrated all those years. I feel like it'll be the same with Herbert now, drooling over his stats while winning nothing every year.
 
tua is 1-0 over herbert, with garbage weapons. wish our rookie had allen, Williams, henry and ekler. dont care what these clowns say. they are freaking starting over and we are in the middle of a rebuild (ahead of schedule) and are younger
 
The funny thing is, most people and media said before the draft that Tua (despite injury concerns) had the "It factor" and would be an absolute star in the NFL. Most people and media at the same time were very down on Herbert and said he might not amount to much.

After one season people act like Tua (despite having a winning record and decent stats for a rookie) never had the "It factor" and has no special skills while Herbet is the next John Elway. lol. I just find it funny how opinions change so drastically in such small windows of time. Guys like Colin Cowherd changed their opinions on Tua like daily.

Herbert had a great rookie season, from a statistical standpoint not really winning games, but I am still not sold he is the next elite NFL quarterback. Wouldn't be the first time a QB had a great rookie year only to flame out. As for Tua, I still think he has that It factor, I don't think he suddenly lost it between college and today. He was also healthy enough to play, but he was still less than a year removed from a catastrophic injury. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if next season Tua asserts himself as the star most expected him to be and Herbert becomes more of a mid-tier QB.

Also the Dolphins have what appears as a great coach, the Chargers have an unknown.
 
Chargers - they actually have blue chippers at multiple positions - Bosa, Ingram, Derwin, Eckeler, Allen to name a few and a Qb that can deliver a Josh Allen 2020 season. Plus the Chargers can actually draft blue chippers.

They are a prime candidate to bounce up winnings 10+ games next year. If the Chiefs lose the Super Bowl, the Chiefs will have to deal with the hangover loss next year too. That makes the AFC West more in play.

I'll cross my fingers hoping that Tua was too soon removed from his hip injury. But with what we know right now, it's the Chargers with a more optimistic future. You can bet their forum isn't awash in DeShaun Watson threads like ours is, and for good reason.
 
AvogadrosNumber said:
Chargers - they actually have blue chippers at multiple positions - Bosa, Ingram, Derwin, Eckeler, Allen to name a few and a Qb that can deliver a Josh Allen 2020 season. Plus the Chargers can actually draft blue chippers.

They are a prime candidate to bounce up winnings 10+ games next year. If the Chiefs lose the Super Bowl, the Chiefs will have to deal with the hangover loss next year too. That makes the AFC West more in play.

I'll cross my fingers hoping that Tua was too soon removed from his hip injury. But with what we know right now, it's the Chargers with a more optimistic future. You can bet their forum isn't awash in DeShaun Watson threads like ours is, and for good reason.
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Nice! Now name their coaching staff? Unless that isn't important to winning games in the NFL.
 
Herbert had much much much better weapons then Tua had. And a offensive coordinator that allowed him to throw the ball past 5 yards. Just look at the difference in weapons.

Keenan Allen, Austin Eckler, Mike Williams, Hunter Henry

compared to Ahmed/Gaskin, Parker, grant, Bowden Jr, Isaiah Ford, and Gesicki.

one could argue the best weapon Tua had was Gesicki as Parker was, as always, slowed most of the year noticeably by another hammy issue and couldn’t get separation to save his life. Give Tua some weapons that are comparable and then let’s talk. Gotta compare apples to apples here
 
Well, obviously there are a few factors at play.

The first is coaching, where Miami appears to have a significant advantage with Flores.

Next is quarterback. Herbert has the early lead, but let's see how Tua develops with more talent around him.

The Chargers have KC in the way and the Chiefs figure to be a tough out as long as they have Mahomes. That could mean, at least over the next few years, playing for a wildcard spot at best.

Of course, things change quickly in the NFL so it's hard to say. Maybe Andy Reid retires, changing everything in KC. Perhaps Buffalo takes the next step making it even more challenging for the Dolphins. But with coaching meaning so much, I'd say Miami has the brighter future.
 
Chargers have a few flat out studs that puts them ahead imo separate from the qb situation.

derwin James is a flat out stud (if healthy)

bosas not as good as his brother but he’s also top shelf

keenan Allen just puts up numbers. You can pretty much pencil him in for 1200 and 8 type expectations yearly
 
Chargers have been doing less with more because it's not all about the talent, they've been plagued with bad FO's and really the Spanos family sucks at ownership.

Since 2004 (since that's when the chargers had an "elite" QB) and tons of talent every year compared to Miami here are the season comparisons:

YEAR​
CHARGERS​
DOLPHINS​
2004​
12-4​
4-12​
2005​
9-7​
9-7​
2006​
14-2​
6-10​
2007​
11-5​
1-15​
2008​
8-8​
11-5​
2009​
13-3​
7-9​
2010​
9-7​
7-9​
2011​
8-8​
6-10​
2012​
7-9​
7-9​
2013​
9-7​
8-8​
2014​
9-7​
8-8​
2015​
4-12​
6-10​
2016​
5-11​
10-6​
2017​
9-7​
6-10​
2018​
12-4​
7-9​
2019​
5-11​
5-11​
2020​
7-9​
10-6​

All that talent and an "elite" qb and super herbert and the Chargers don't have much more to show for than Miami in the same time period.

In that time span Chargers have had 1 Coach of the year, 3 come back players of the year,1 MVP, 1 offensive player of the year. and 2 Defensive Rookie of the years.

Miami had 1 defensive player of the year and one comeback player of the year and that's it.

LOL Chargers have been proving for years that it takes more than talent.
 
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