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do you think daunte will eventually get his speed back?

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i wanna hear what you think, why or why not, i personally think he does, because he has shown flashes of him old self
 
YES IN 2-3 WEEKS


cpeppfan said:
i wanna hear what you think, why or why not, i personally think he does, because he has shown flashes of him old self
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to many people are trying to pin this all on his "speed".

the guys reads are whats slow and has been for a long time!

the knee doesnt help, but if his leg wasnt repaired, it wouldnt
be much different.

when you have moss and cris carter, you dont get blitzed that
often. when you have the #1 rush attack [yes, they could run
also] you have MANY luxuries. ones he doesnt have here!

when you have an ALL WORLD O-LINE that almost every member
was in the probowl year after year, well, get it?

he is NOT a read and react pocket passer. in a system where
you have to stand and think and deliver, he cant!

the leg is a small, small part of his problems.
 
The AFCEaster said:
He's definitely going to lose a step but he should adapt to being more of a pocket passer.
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If he loses a step and becomes a pocket passer, then he's done as a starter in this leaque!
 
Mini-camp 2007 and beyond

HE WILL BE READY

Tearing not 1 (the average for ligament damage) but 3 ligaments in the same knee IS HELLACIOUS!!!!

I was blinded by the fact that he rehabbed himself crazy to "beat the odds" timetable to play for opening day against PITT (HIS OWN PROCLAMATION)

I look back to that same game and saw that although he played with determination, saavy (remember they blitzed us crazy for 3 quarters of that game), and heart.....he still was gimpy but IT WAS OVERLOOKED BY HIS WILL TO PLAY IN THAT GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE.On a healthy knee that INT that Palomauo (sp??) caught that was intended for CC would've hit CC right on the numbers..

WE AS FANS NEED TO REALIZE THAT YOUR LEGS (KNEES INCLUDED) ARE JUST AS VITAL AS HAVING A STRONG ARM THAN THE ACTUAL ARM STRENGTH ITSELF.YOU NEED YOUR LEGS UNDER YOU TO HELP HURL THE FOOTBALL OUT YOUR HANDS WHEN THROWING

GIVE DC TIME MOST IMPORTANTLY WHEN HE'S HEALTHY 100% GIVE HIM TIME
 
Yes, he will. This isn't even a question of "if," but "when." If Culpepper dedicates himself to this task as aggressively as he did to his offseason rehab, I predict he'll be back for the last few games of the season.
 
Redneck Friend said:
to many people are trying to pin this all on his "speed".

the guys reads are whats slow and has been for a long time!

the knee doesnt help, but if his leg wasnt repaired, it wouldnt
be much different.

when you have moss and cris carter, you dont get blitzed that
often. when you have the #1 rush attack [yes, they could run
also] you have MANY luxuries. ones he doesnt have here!

when you have an ALL WORLD O-LINE that almost every member
was in the probowl year after year, well, get it?

he is NOT a read and react pocket passer. in a system where
you have to stand and think and deliver, he cant!

the leg is a small, small part of his problems.
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For once, you made some sense. Congrats.

His leg work is still a problem, he doesn't plant his leg down to throw the ball the way he would want to. His knee is still bothering him, and if it is healthy, he is just afraid to plant it.

But yes, the biggest lack of speed he has are his reads and his delivery. This guy can be physically gifted, but if you can't read a defense in our offense, then you will not succeed.

This is not the simplified offense he had in Minnesota two seasons ago, where they would ask Moss to go deep down field as a decoy to draw up 3-4 defenders deep, and open up another receiver up front. You actually have to read a defense here in Miami.
 
Vertical Limit said:
This is not the simplified offense he had in Minnesota two seasons ago, where they would ask Moss to go deep down field as a decoy to draw up 3-4 defenders deep, and open up another receiver up front.
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Opposing defenses usually figured out that Moss was a decoy before halftime.

As far as Culpepper's ability to read defenses goes, I'll believe Cris Carter on this one.
 
Desides said:
Opposing defenses usually figured out that Moss was a decoy before halftime.

As far as Culpepper's ability to read defenses goes, I'll believe Cris Carter on this one.
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And yet, they will still go after him because if you let him go, Daunte will throw it deep to him, as Moss is the best deep threat in the league.
 
Doubt it, not only his leg which is holding him back.
 
I think he will. & once he does he'll make all of the Culpepper haters look like idiots. He just came back too soon. It takes time to get your speed back after a injury like that.
 
Redneck Friend said:
to many people are trying to pin this all on his "speed".

the guys reads are whats slow and has been for a long time!

the knee doesnt help, but if his leg wasnt repaired, it wouldnt
be much different.

when you have moss and cris carter, you dont get blitzed that
often. when you have the #1 rush attack [yes, they could run
also] you have MANY luxuries. ones he doesnt have here!

when you have an ALL WORLD O-LINE that almost every member
was in the probowl year after year, well, get it?

he is NOT a read and react pocket passer. in a system where
you have to stand and think and deliver, he cant!

the leg is a small, small part of his problems.
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One of the more intelligent posts I have seen. IMO you are right on the money. Culpepper's weaknesses have really been exposed the past two years. I can't think of a better situation a QB has ever walked into than DC did in 2000 (Moss, Carter, Robert Smith, OL)...Kurt Warner with the Rams is the only one close. Without a great WR, OL and running game he is really lost on the field of play. He is limited to sacks and a ton of 3-5 yard passes that save his QB rating but don't move an offense down the field. Exact same thing happened in Minnesota last year.

Unless Miami is able to draft a Calvin Johnson (assuming he is as good in the pros as he is in college) or trade for a top receiver and build a great OL then we are in trouble if Culpepper is our QB. Having said that what QB doesn't exceed with a great WR, OL and running game so what is the point of keeping him anyways.

Leaders are able to lift the play of those around them, but in Culpepper's case he needs great players around him to lift his play. Not what you want in a QB which is the position all teams look for leadership. Culpepper never has been a leader. Even in his career year 2004 (every QB had a career year in 2004) the Vikings finished 8-8. The only team they beat with a winning record that year was Jacksonville at 9-7.

His stats are very decpetive bc he puts up big numbers against poor teams throughout his career when they are playing the type of defense you indicated (no blitz). But when he has to go up against a decent defense he becomes "Daunte the Duck" and it is duck season. So even if he were to make it back and somehow lead us to enough wins to get to the playoffs, when he would face playoff teams with a good defense we wouldn't be going to many championship games or SB. It would be one and done. Of course this is assuming he could even lead us there. He has not led a team to a winning record since that first year he played...btw the Vikings lost to the Giants 41-0 in the playoffs that year.
 
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