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BenchFiedler

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I'm not sure how they will determine the winner of the QB battle between Gus and Feeley but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be fair. Since Gus allrady knows the system, he is more comfortable and Linehan and Bagget knows what he is capable off....What advantage does Feeley has over him? I even believe the coaches want him to fail...

Feeley will probably practice in training camp with the second team including Derrius Thompson, Josh Davis, Kendall Newson, Alex Holmes and other players who might not even make the team. If it was to make it a fair QB battle, I would give Feeley way more snaps than Gus to get even with him and at least be more 50% comfortable in the system entering the 1st game of the season. Feeley has one advantage which is that he knows the timing of his receivers allready including David Boston that he got to throw to last year. Besides that, the coaches, the new system, the learning process are all factors against him.

How fair is the QB battle between Gus and AJ? This sounds like a Mission Impossible for Feeley. Why do you think Fiedler was always beating every QB that came to compete with him?
 
I think it will be fair because Saban wants it to be fair.
 
I don't think the coaches want Feely to fail. If anything, they want him to overachieve. Gus is here to push the issue not the envelope, if he happens to win the battle out right it's because he deserves it, not because he already knows the offense and was shown some sort of favoritism. JMHO
 
BenchFiedler said:
I'm not sure how they will determine the winner of the QB battle between Gus and Feeley but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be fair. Since Gus allrady knows the system, he is more comfortable and Linehan and Bagget knows what he is capable off....What advantage does Feeley has over him? I even believe the coaches want him to fail...

Feeley will probably practice in training camp with the second team including Derrius Thompson, Josh Davis, Kendall Newson, Alex Holmes and other players who might not even make the team. If it was to make it a fair QB battle, I would give Feeley way more snaps than Gus to get even with him and at least be more 50% comfortable in the system entering the 1st game of the season. Feeley has one advantage which is that he knows the timing of his receivers allready including David Boston that he got to throw to last year. Besides that, the coaches, the new system, the learning process are all factors against him.

How fair is the QB battle between Gus and AJ? This sounds like a Mission Impossible for Feeley. Why do you think Fiedler was always beating every QB that came to compete with him?
stop crying.......if anything, competition should make Feeley play better. If he doesn't, then he's not starter material for the Miami Dolphins

btw, we're changing offensive systems, so the "timing" that AJ had is irrelevant


its excuse after excuse for AJ isn't it :rolleyes:

if he's the best QB he'll start, if he's not, then he'll be riding pine
 
byroan said:
I think it will be fair because Saban wants it to be fair.
:shakeno:

That was no answer..the guy presented a scenario and you have him no feedback...i.e., how does Saban make it fair? What can he do to ensure Feeley's comfortable going into the 4th game of pre season in this O? Does splitting snaps slow Feeley's development?
 
MDFINFAN said:
:shakeno:

That was no answer..the guy presented a scenario and you have him no feedback...i.e., how does Saban make it fair? What can he do to ensure Feeley's comfortable going into the 4th game of pre season in this O? Does splitting snaps slow Feeley's development?

You gave him no answer either, just putting my answer down. I'm sorry it wasn't good enough for you all mighty Spielman lover. :rolleyes:

The title of the thread is Do you think it's Fair !!!. I gave him my answer but that wasn't good enough for you.

He said that Linehan and Baggett already know what Gus can do, meaning they think he has the advantage. Saban will go with the better QB from training camp. Both will get work with the first team. Wanny and Spielman are gone so it won't be an unfair competition.
 
Come now!

It'll be fair.
The politics and game playing era of Phins personnel went out the window with the idiot Wanny.

All signs point to Saban being a bottom line coach that will play whoever the hell earns the spot regardless of past accomplishments.

On another note, I seriously doubt that the coaches want AJ Feeley to fail.
It makes zero sense.
Frerrote is obviously a stop gap option at QB. No one will make the mistake of thinking he's a QB to build the franchise on. If AJ Feeley steps up and becomes a better than avg. QB then you're looking at one less piece of a team that you have to bring in and we could be competing for a super bowl in a couple of years.

If AJ Feeley fails, the Phins could really be put back 2-3 years in their turn around. We'd have to draft a young QB in the high rounds to fill an immediate void and we all know that a young QB takes a few years to really develop. AJ Feely failing next year could put us into a full rebuilding process.

I don't think the coaches want that do you?
I think coach Saban would be happy to achieve success right away don't you?

If he wants great success right away he needs Feeley to pan out.
Seeing that, I think it's obvious to make the assumption that the coaches would love Feeley to turn into a good QB.

What the coaches want and what a player does dosen't always match however.
 
It is impossible to provide a neutral environment for any QB battle.
That is why there are coaches to evaluate the performances, and not just someone looking at a stat sheet.
Furthermore... These are not the same coaches who kept Fiedler as a starter year after year.

EDIT: Why would the coaching staff want our young QB to fail? So, they can go through the headache of finding a different QB to see if he can make the grade? Feeley succeeding would be a dream for this coaching staff.
 
It's not a level playing field, but that's the challenge he's facing. He can meet it or wilt.
 
We will see how Feeley does in training camp. Right now he hasn't proven anything. Saban won't hesitate not starting Feeley imo. He wasn't the one who traded for Feeley. He most likely wants him to succeed, but he won't start him if he performs in training camp/preseason like he did during the regular season.
 
BenchFiedler said:
I'm not sure how they will determine the winner of the QB battle between Gus and Feeley but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be fair. Since Gus allrady knows the system, he is more comfortable and Linehan and Bagget knows what he is capable off....What advantage does Feeley has over him? I even believe the coaches want him to fail...

Feeley will probably practice in training camp with the second team including Derrius Thompson, Josh Davis, Kendall Newson, Alex Holmes and other players who might not even make the team. If it was to make it a fair QB battle, I would give Feeley way more snaps than Gus to get even with him and at least be more 50% comfortable in the system entering the 1st game of the season. Feeley has one advantage which is that he knows the timing of his receivers allready including David Boston that he got to throw to last year. Besides that, the coaches, the new system, the learning process are all factors against him.

How fair is the QB battle between Gus and AJ? This sounds like a Mission Impossible for Feeley. Why do you think Fiedler was always beating every QB that came to compete with him?

Feeley is the starter so plays with the First team offenseand so will Gus, sban wants this to be fair, Now that there is serious competition Feeley should be pushed to do better. FYI no one likes a crybaby.
 
BenchFiedler said:
I'm not sure how they will determine the winner of the QB battle between Gus and Feeley but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be fair. Since Gus allrady knows the system, he is more comfortable and Linehan and Bagget knows what he is capable off....What advantage does Feeley has over him? I even believe the coaches want him to fail...

Feeley will probably practice in training camp with the second team including Derrius Thompson, Josh Davis, Kendall Newson, Alex Holmes and other players who might not even make the team. If it was to make it a fair QB battle, I would give Feeley way more snaps than Gus to get even with him and at least be more 50% comfortable in the system entering the 1st game of the season. Feeley has one advantage which is that he knows the timing of his receivers allready including David Boston that he got to throw to last year. Besides that, the coaches, the new system, the learning process are all factors against him.

How fair is the QB battle between Gus and AJ? This sounds like a Mission Impossible for Feeley. Why do you think Fiedler was always beating every QB that came to compete with him?


....All the more reason AJ needs to bust his *** the rest of the offseason to learn more about the system...you know what does piss me off though? I hear about this QB and this WR hooking up in the offseason to build more chemistry, work on timing etc....Why havent we heard about AJ and one of our WR or TE hooking up in the offseason?? If you want it, you gotta take it..
 
I was just wondering on Total Access Adam Schefter reported that the signing of Randy Mueller will hurt A.J. chances. I know Linehan is pulling for Frerrote and Spielman was pulling for Feeley. But how could acquiring Mueller hurt AJ's chances? :hmmm: I remember reading a post saying that Mueller was so high on AJ that he even considered drafting him. If that's true (which I'm assuming it is), wouldn't that balance it out so it's 50/50 again? I just want it to be a FAIR OPEN competition and I want the best QB to winning the starting job. Simple as that.
 
BenchFiedler said:
I'm not sure how they will determine the winner of the QB battle between Gus and Feeley but one thing I know for sure is that it won't be fair. Since Gus allrady knows the system, he is more comfortable and Linehan and Bagget knows what he is capable off....What advantage does Feeley has over him? I even believe the coaches want him to fail...

Feeley will probably practice in training camp with the second team including Derrius Thompson, Josh Davis, Kendall Newson, Alex Holmes and other players who might not even make the team. If it was to make it a fair QB battle, I would give Feeley way more snaps than Gus to get even with him and at least be more 50% comfortable in the system entering the 1st game of the season. Feeley has one advantage which is that he knows the timing of his receivers allready including David Boston that he got to throw to last year. Besides that, the coaches, the new system, the learning process are all factors against him.

How fair is the QB battle between Gus and AJ? This sounds like a Mission Impossible for Feeley. Why do you think Fiedler was always beating every QB that came to compete with him?

well if he can't beat out gus freakin ferotte, then he has no business being our starter.

i do however hope he can manage to win the job.
 
Feeley will be the starter,Gus is here merely as a teacher and back up QB.Competition is good it will push AJ.JMHO. Besides if AJ can't beat out an aging career back up QB do we really want here at all?
 
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