Does anyone have a comprehensive plan to fix the oline
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Andyman
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You can’t cut both. I’d expect them both back at restructured contracts. I cannot speak to UFAs but clearly they need a guard in free agency.
traptses
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Suh gets cut, saves $17 million. Landry is traded for a 2nd rounder.
Pouncey remains, James is cut.
Use that free money on one of the top FA LBs and OG Andrew Norwell
Who we take in the 1st is up in the air imo. Do we take Baker Mayfield? Idk, I wouldn’t be opposed.
2nd round, we take the best OG available, either Billy Price or Will Hernandez. With the other 2nd that we get from Landry, replace him with WR Anthony Miller.
That’s just how I would do it in Madden anyways
Pouncey remains, James is cut.
Use that free money on one of the top FA LBs and OG Andrew Norwell
Who we take in the 1st is up in the air imo. Do we take Baker Mayfield? Idk, I wouldn’t be opposed.
2nd round, we take the best OG available, either Billy Price or Will Hernandez. With the other 2nd that we get from Landry, replace him with WR Anthony Miller.
That’s just how I would do it in Madden anyways
Miami's pass protection was good enough in 2017 - 11th in adjusted sack rate, according to Football Oustiders*. And it also performed well on short-yardage situations and helped create a lot of big runs (7th and 4th ranked by FO). The problem is that Miami gets stuffed at a very high rate, and they get RB's to the 2nd level at a low rate (30th and 20th). Miami ran best off Left Tackle and Right End (22nd and 18th), but those only account for 12% and 9% of Miami's rush attempts, and, as I'm sure you noticed, 22nd and 18th isn't exactly good. Left End, Mid/Guard, and Right tackle all rank bottom-3 (31st, 31st, and 30th). Miami runs into this terrible threesome 79% of the time, so it's no surprise that FO ranked them the 31st rushing offense in the NFL.
But, if you can protect the QB, you can afford to be a little patient on OL. With the exception of Pouncey, it's a pretty young group, and it should get better with another year of experience in 2018. Depending on how the board falls, I'd start looking for value at 42, but 75 could be in play for a starter.
At 42, Connor Williams, James Daniels, Isaiah Wynn, and Jamarco Jones would be very attractive to me.
At 75, Orlando Brown, Chukwuma Okorafor, Tyrell Crosby, Will Hernandez, Frank Ragnow, and Mason Cole would all make me happy. Billy Price, Braden Smith, Martinas Rankin, and Mike McGlinchey wouldn't bother me either.
If OL is not on your early priority list, and If you're patient and wait all the way until 107, one of them probably slips through the cracks. We'll see if any have especially terrible Combines or disqualify themselves in some other way. If Miami misses on talents like Smith, James, Edmunds, Elliott, Vander Esch, etc., it might be worth selecting one OL position at 42 or 75 and another at 107 (assuming one falls). But, Miami has more significant problems than a lack of a consistent run game, and, ideally, they'd be able to spend significant resources on the the 2nd and 3rd levels of the Defense.
My (realistic-ish) dream scenario is Roquan Smith at 11 and DeShon Elliot at 42. Add speed at LB and a young, versatile, instinctive FS, and it does wonders for a D that still needs a pass rush. I'd love to add Bradley Chubb at 11, but that doesn't seem realistic. I'm not sure if Miami would or should trust Davenport to play a significant role early, and it needs an every-down player with the 11th pick. Derwin James and Leighton Vander Esch or Malik Jefferson would also work for me, but only if the DC was on board with using James as a match-up piece. We still have some more info to work through, but Miami has to prioritize speed, physicality, and instincts/play-making ability at the 2nd and 3rd levels.
It doesn't seem like Miami wants to spend much on OL, so I don't think they'll find more than a rotational player in FA. It's a good draft to look for value at OG and C.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol *
But, if you can protect the QB, you can afford to be a little patient on OL. With the exception of Pouncey, it's a pretty young group, and it should get better with another year of experience in 2018. Depending on how the board falls, I'd start looking for value at 42, but 75 could be in play for a starter.
At 42, Connor Williams, James Daniels, Isaiah Wynn, and Jamarco Jones would be very attractive to me.
At 75, Orlando Brown, Chukwuma Okorafor, Tyrell Crosby, Will Hernandez, Frank Ragnow, and Mason Cole would all make me happy. Billy Price, Braden Smith, Martinas Rankin, and Mike McGlinchey wouldn't bother me either.
If OL is not on your early priority list, and If you're patient and wait all the way until 107, one of them probably slips through the cracks. We'll see if any have especially terrible Combines or disqualify themselves in some other way. If Miami misses on talents like Smith, James, Edmunds, Elliott, Vander Esch, etc., it might be worth selecting one OL position at 42 or 75 and another at 107 (assuming one falls). But, Miami has more significant problems than a lack of a consistent run game, and, ideally, they'd be able to spend significant resources on the the 2nd and 3rd levels of the Defense.
My (realistic-ish) dream scenario is Roquan Smith at 11 and DeShon Elliot at 42. Add speed at LB and a young, versatile, instinctive FS, and it does wonders for a D that still needs a pass rush. I'd love to add Bradley Chubb at 11, but that doesn't seem realistic. I'm not sure if Miami would or should trust Davenport to play a significant role early, and it needs an every-down player with the 11th pick. Derwin James and Leighton Vander Esch or Malik Jefferson would also work for me, but only if the DC was on board with using James as a match-up piece. We still have some more info to work through, but Miami has to prioritize speed, physicality, and instincts/play-making ability at the 2nd and 3rd levels.
It doesn't seem like Miami wants to spend much on OL, so I don't think they'll find more than a rotational player in FA. It's a good draft to look for value at OG and C.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol *
Pounceys going to stay, Gase and the guys love him.
James is a tricky situation...high price, but it’s a weak market for tackles, so he’d probably get money from somewhere...so we might have to pick up that option.
James is a tricky situation...high price, but it’s a weak market for tackles, so he’d probably get money from somewhere...so we might have to pick up that option.
Your first sentence automatically discredits this item. Cutting Suh would absolutely not save $17M. If he is outright cut, most of that money would be considered dead with only a few million being actual cap savings. If he is considered a post June 1 cut, there are specific and complicated cap implications for what happens with the remaining bonuses/guaranteed money.
traptses
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I should’ve specified, post June cut
Even if Suh is cut post June 1, that’s still $13 mil in dead money on our cap for next year...is it really worth it for basically $4 million in savings? I’d rather keep him.
traptses
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I was under the impression that he clears $26 million, with $9 million in dead money, with a net gain of $17 million
There’s still a dead hit for next year (2019), too, of about $13 million.
Re-sign Young
Restructure Pouncey
Double down in the draft
Continue developing Jesse Davis, Asiata, Brendel
Keep Larsen
Find a combo TE (blocking and receiving)
Restructure Pouncey
Double down in the draft
Continue developing Jesse Davis, Asiata, Brendel
Keep Larsen
Find a combo TE (blocking and receiving)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...in-the-dolphins-plans-beyond-2017-season/amp/
I don’t like the hit in 2019. Would rather roll with Suh and get his on field production.
I'm in the same boat. Keep Suh at his current salary, and when the cap hit lessens, then you can move him if you'd like.
We have the 73 pick, not the 75. I agree that we can get a good guard in the 3rd round. If they let James walk then an OT in the 3rd round is possible and keeping Davis at guard but we'd still need a guard. I'd rather draft a LG, keep Davis at RG and have Young, Smith and Sturup compete at RT
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MelbournePhin
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Asiata chances of being worth a ****? Anyone have insight?