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Dolphins Analyst: Dolphins "haven't Run Like This Since Don Shula"

I hope Flores is better than Shula.

I want him to be Landry, Walsh, Bellicheck. Gotta aim higher.
Shula was Landry, with a tan.

Walsh was a true visionary, offensively. BB is just smarter than everyone else.

I would take a combo package of the three.
 
Conditioning has been a problem in the past, I hope all this running pays off in games. The Dolphins have the advantage of practicing in the hot south Florida sun year round, but more often than not it seems like our players are the ones gassed with hands on their hips instead of the opponent late in games.

Then again, our Swiss cheese wide 9 defense might be a factor in that as well lol.
 
Keep 'em out of that air conditioned practice bubble and that will help.

Miami should have the best home field advantage in the NFL in the early part of the season. This season would be great to reawaken that tradition.
 
It's called being a football coach. We haven't had one of those around for a long dry spell. The first thing you do is fundamentals. That was one of Gase's problems. He didn't teach or stress fundamentals and therefore his team was a joke. Gase's way is hang in there, keep it close and win, if you're lucky in the 4th quarter. The right approach is to beat the absolute crap out of your opponent for 60 minutes, right from the opening gun. Shula's teams owned the 4th quarter. That's the tradition that we need to get back to and Flores seems to be just the man to bring it back. Well conditioned, intelligent teams that don't beat themselves have a chance to win a lot of games and for starters, that's who we need to be. We haven't been that team in over 10 years. Once you get over that hump you can fine tune things. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to get there.

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Conditioning has been a problem in the past, I hope all this running pays off in games. The Dolphins have the advantage of practicing in the hot south Florida sun year round, but more often than not it seems like our players are the ones gassed with hands on their hips instead of the opponent late in games.

Then again, our Swiss cheese wide 9 defense might be a factor in that as well lol.
When you consistently have 3 and outs, the D is going to get tired. I don't know what the stats are under Gase, but I have to think we were bottom of the league in that respect.
 
Don Shula 328-156, .677 winning percentage and only 2 losing seasons out of 33.

Tom Landry 250-162, .607 winning percentage and 8 losing seasons out of 29.

Bill Walsh 92-59, .609 winning percentage and 3 losing seasons out of 10.

Bill Belichick 54-63, .461 winning percentage and 5 losing seasons out of 7 when QB Tom Brady isn't the starter.
If that doesn't take care of it, then maybe this will:

Bum Phillips (Wade Phillips' dad) said about Shula, "He can take his'un and beat your'un, then turn around and take your'un and beat his'un."

Undefeated teams. 1, and it was coached by Don Shula and went without its Hall of Fame QB for most of the season, played an away playoff game (rotational basis back then, not home field advantage) in 3-Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh in the snow, went undefeated dominating the game … yet were still underdogs because so many people simply didn't believe.

He built a team on a running game with Larry Csonka, on a passing game with Dan Marino, and when he had neither he came up with a two-headed monster at QB of one running QB--David Woodley--and one passing QB--Don Strock. He managed to draft low almost every year and churn out winning team after winning team. He dominated his division regardless of talent. He was regularly the least penalized team in the league. His teams were very often the lesser talented team yet he won with near-perfect execution, near zero mental mistakes (one season the entire team only had like 7 mental errors for the whole SEASON! … and we know because they kept very close track), superior conditioning (sometimes 5 and 7 times a day they'd practice and Shula didn't allow water or fans on the field), and absolutely the best preparedness of any team in the NFL every year.

Don Shula took a piss-poor expansion franchise and turned it into the winningest major US sports franchise ever … a title we held for a very long time, all because of Don Shula.

Don Shula put his players in a position to win strategically, physically, emotionally, and competitively. He won with inferior talent. When he had top talent, he achieved an unparalleled level of success.

If one is aiming high as a coach, there is no higher goal than to level reached by Don Shula.
 
If that doesn't take care of it, then maybe this will:

Bum Phillips (Wade Phillips' dad) said about Shula, "He can take his'un and beat your'un, then turn around and take your'un and beat his'un."

Undefeated teams. 1, and it was coached by Don Shula and went without its Hall of Fame QB for most of the season, played an away playoff game (rotational basis back then, not home field advantage) in 3-Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh in the snow, went undefeated dominating the game … yet were still underdogs because so many people simply didn't believe.

He built a team on a running game with Larry Csonka, on a passing game with Dan Marino, and when he had neither he came up with a two-headed monster at QB of one running QB--David Woodley--and one passing QB--Don Strock. He managed to draft low almost every year and churn out winning team after winning team. He dominated his division regardless of talent. He was regularly the least penalized team in the league. His teams were very often the lesser talented team yet he won with near-perfect execution, near zero mental mistakes (one season the entire team only had like 7 mental errors for the whole SEASON! … and we know because they kept very close track), superior conditioning (sometimes 5 and 7 times a day they'd practice and Shula didn't allow water or fans on the field), and absolutely the best preparedness of any team in the NFL every year.

Don Shula took a piss-poor expansion franchise and turned it into the winningest major US sports franchise ever … a title we held for a very long time, all because of Don Shula.

Don Shula put his players in a position to win strategically, physically, emotionally, and competitively. He won with inferior talent. When he had top talent, he achieved an unparalleled level of success.

If one is aiming high as a coach, there is no higher goal than to level reached by Don Shula.

Bravo!
 
When you consistently have 3 and outs, the D is going to get tired. I don't know what the stats are under Gase, but I have to think we were bottom of the league in that respect.
We were. Amazingly, in 2014 under Philbin we had the fewest 3 and outs per drive in the league.

Shula didn't allow water or fans on the field
Which is stupid. All the good things Shula did, he never won it all with the best pure passer in the history of the game.
 
We were. Amazingly, in 2014 under Philbin we had the fewest 3 and outs per drive in the league.


Which is stupid. All the good things Shula did, he never won it all with the best pure passer in the history of the game.

The water thing was an old school belief.

When I played HS, and D3, many moons ago, coaches normally didn't allow water during practice, and on the rare occasion they did, it was basically saline solution to replace salt.
 
Which is stupid. All the good things Shula did, he never won it all with the best pure passer in the history of the game.

Actually, the team complained, complained and complained … and then started winning. In their interviews the media kept asking them why they always won, and the players kept pointing out that they were better conditioned than the other team and better prepared, so while the other team faded physically or panicked, the Dolphins were a well-oiled machine with plenty of power, speed and stamina left in the 4th quarter to dominate their opponents, and so well prepared that they always out-executed their opponents and were prepared for everything the other team did.

The players repeatedly mentioned their hard preseason as a source of their physical dominance, and wore it as a badge of honor outwardly. And after they started winning, they complained less each year … but every year the rookies complained like crazy and the veterans told them to suck it up and train to win.
 
Actually, the team complained, complained and complained … and then started winning. In their interviews the media kept asking them why they always won, and the players kept pointing out that they were better conditioned than the other team and better prepared, so while the other team faded physically or panicked, the Dolphins were a well-oiled machine with plenty of power, speed and stamina left in the 4th quarter to dominate their opponents, and so well prepared that they always out-executed their opponents and were prepared for everything the other team did.

The players repeatedly mentioned their hard preseason as a source of their physical dominance, and wore it as a badge of honor outwardly. And after they started winning, they complained less each year … but every year the rookies complained like crazy and the veterans told them to suck it up and train to win.
Winning does have a way of smoothing over the suck.
 
Don Shula 328-156, .677 winning percentage and only 2 losing seasons out of 33.

Tom Landry 250-162, .607 winning percentage and 8 losing seasons out of 29.

Bill Walsh 92-59, .609 winning percentage and 3 losing seasons out of 10.

Bill Belichick 54-63, .461 winning percentage and 5 losing seasons out of 7 when QB Tom Brady isn't the starter.
Let's be fair if you are giving Shula Marino you have to give Belichick Brady.
Belichick: 261-123 .680 winning percentage.
And with NE only he's at 225-79 or .740 winning percentage across 19yrs that's an average of 11.8 wins per season. Crazy. Only 1 losing season in his first year. 6 SB wins, 9 SB appearances, 16 AFC East Division Champs.
 
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Let's be fair if you are giving Shula Marino you have to give Belichick Brady.
Belichick: 261-123 .680 winning percentage.
And with NE only he's at 225-79 or .740 winning percentage across 19yrs that's an average of 11.8 wins per season. Crazy.
Don Shula with David Woodley ages 22-25: 27-12-1; .692 winning percentage
Don Shula with Don Strock as starter: 14-6; .700 winning percentage

Bill Belichick with Drew Bledsoe in his prime years 28-29: 5-13; .277 winning percentage
Drew Bledsoe with every coach not named Belichick: 93-82; .531 winning percentage
 
ula didn't allow water or fans on the field
Which is stupid. All the good things Shula did, he never won it all with the best pure passer in the history of the game.


I wont say Shula phoned in the last bit of his career. But I get the vibe that he wasn't as motivated as he was in his early career.
 
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