Dolphins Are Selling Ryan Fitzpatrick Over Josh Rosen At Qb, But Don't Buy It

[Dolph N.Fan]

Is it real though? It could be a motivational head game, and by all appearances, it could be working.

He could be saving Rosen from getting killed by the atrocious O-line with the first for games being against Baltimore, New England, Dallas and the Chargers.

 

[Manning]

Agree with everything except the characterization of Rosen’s performance as mediocre...he had a big mistake....he led 3 scoring drives over 60 yards each.

I think he played better than average and made some big time throws that big time quarterbacks make.

Should had been 4 if it wasn’t for that fumble inside the 30. In the fourth quarter

 

[AdamD13]

Mixed feelings about Rosen's performance. Poor protection, some legit starting QB worthy throws, good comp%, YPA and YPC.

On the other hand, a terrible read on interception, threw the ball up for grabs in what would often be a pick on another and most of his numbers were the benefit of a phenomenal performance by Williams on 4 catches.

In the end, Rosen's play definitely didn't scream "I'm the guy," but also didn't shriek "I'm not the guy."

Hard to believe the starting job isn't still up for grabs.

 

[circumstances]

I have often stated I never need to see one snap out of Fitzy this season, and all I'm interested in is Rosen playing (if we can somewhat protect him).

But, I have to admit, when Fitzy was in there I was rooting for him to make plays and do well.

I'm going to chalk it up to the Dolphins uniform he was wearing.

I still want to see Rosen start week one, but my reaction to Fitz out there surprised me.

 

[AZStryker]

I have often stated I never need to see one snap out of Fitzy this season, and all I'm interested in is Rosen playing (if we can somewhat protect him).

But, I have to admit, when Fitzy was in there I was rooting for him to make plays and do well.

I'm going to chalk it up to the Dolphins uniform he was wearing.

I still want to see Rosen start week one, but my reaction to Fitz out there surprised me.

Me too! I have no use for Fitz on this team as I view as every snap he takes as stealing from evaluating players who actually might have a future with the dolphins. However, as soon as the whistle blew I was cheering for him when he scrambled for the first down, and upset with him when he didn’t convert. I guess I just can’t root for a dolphin player to fail unlike so many other people do.

 

[circumstances]

Me too! I have no use for Fitz on this team as I view as every snap he takes as stealing from evaluating players who actually might have a future with the dolphins. However, as soon as the whistle blew I was cheering for him when he scrambled for the first down, and upset with him when he didn’t convert. I guess I just can’t root for a dolphin player to fail unlike so many other people do.

I was actually thinking to myself "what the heck is going on with me?" lol

It was exciting!

 

[marino13zach54]

[QUOTE="Vaark, post: 7959205, member: 23640]

I've said before, it's better that Fitz starts, Rosen stands next to O'Shea on the sidelines watching, listeningLet him sit/stand for a few games.[/QUOTE]

Ardently disagreed with this until watching these poor QBs run for their lives. We can't possibly put Rosen in a similar situation, or worse, than the Cardinals and expect to see a better QB.

Fitz's footwork in the pocket, stepping up and such is going to help the oline and hopefully they'll get more cohesive as the year progresses.

I've done a complete 180 on Rosen. Keep the kid on the sideline until the oline gels some.

 

[circumstances]

[QUOTE="Vaark, post: 7959205, member: 23640]

I've said before, it's better that Fitz starts, Rosen stands next to O'Shea on the sidelines watching, listeningLet him sit/stand for a few games.

Ardently disagreed with this until watching these poor QBs run for their lives. We can't possibly put Rosen in a similar situation, or worse, than the Cardinals and expect to see a better QB.

Fitz's footwork in the pocket, stepping up and such is going to help the oline and hopefully they'll get more cohesive as the year progresses.

I've done a complete 180 on Rosen. Keep the kid on the sideline until the oline gels some.[/QUOTE]
I haven't done any change on Rosen.

I've always said I want him out there yesterday.

I've also said only if we can pass protect.

Nothing Rosen did changed my mind on him.

But the OLine has a ways to go before I'm going to be comfortable putting Rosen behind it.

Unlike many others, I have a hunch Tunsil, Deiter, Kilgore, Calhoun/Reed, and Jesse Davis will ultimately play decent enough for Rosen to survive. Just need to see it.

 

[marino13zach54]

Not sure why you would trade a 2nd round pick for a QB and not use all 16 games to evaluate him in lieu of a journeyman QB. This team had plenty of needs it could of filled with that pick. If Fitzpatrick starts week 1 i'll be skeptical of Flores.

This used to be be my frame of mind.

Did you see how many jail-breaks that oline allowed? What can we possibly see from Rosen behind that line?

I know its only the first PRACTICE game but that's all we have to go from at the moment.

Starting Fitz is such a waste of snaps but starting Rosen might be a waste of potential because with a line like we saw on Thursday, we might as well strap C4 to said potential- kaplow.

 

[marino13zach54]

Also, am I the only one who has an ENORMOUS problem with Flores wanting to cool the "gunslinger" mentality?

Wtf?

That's exactly the type of mentality I want in my QB.

Please, powers that be, not another dink and dunk coach. Unless he can create an Edleman...

We just saw what Williams can do with a gunslinger mentality. I don't get it.

 

[andyahs]

Also, am I the only one who has an ENORMOUS problem with Flores wanting to cool the "gunslinger" mentality?

Wtf?

That's exactly the type of mentality I want in my QB.

Please, powers that be, not another dink and dunk coach. Unless he can create an Edleman...

We just saw what Williams can do with a gunslinger mentality. I don't get it.

I think there's been an overreaction to what he was talking about.

 

[marino13zach54]

I think there's been an overreaction to what he was talking about.

Taken out of context?

 

[Mach2]

Taken out of context?

There are times to take chances, and times not to take chances. Wisdom is knowing the difference.

At first, I thought Flores was wrong, but after giving it some thought, he is probably correct in making a point to Rosen, even if it was a preseason game.

 

[rickd13]

No. I'll refer you to just a few sentences further down in your own post



What he said :funny:...

Lets get the O-Line to a level where it's not going to get our HC charged with Pre-Meditated Murder....

That has no chance of happening this year with the talent they have on the offensive line so they should just play him from the get go.

 

[marino13zach54]

There are times to take chances, and times not to take chances. Wisdom is knowing the difference.

At first, I thought Flores was wrong, but after giving it some thought, he is probably correct in making a point to Rosen, even if it was a preseason game.

That's completely understandable but you don't want to cool down what we saw from Williams and Rosen. You push that.