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DAVIE, Fla. (AP) -Ted Ginn Jr. was sprinting over the middle when the pass arrived a bit high, forcing him to reach up and leaving him exposed to defenders. Such moments can test an NFL receiver's backbone - and ribs.
Ginn passed the exam by making the catch. The jarring collision never came, but Ginn earned a pat on the back.
``That is a good sign for me,'' said his coach, Tony Sparano.
``You just go out and show what you can do,'' Ginn said.
How much Ginn can do is one of the biggest questions in the Miami Dolphins' training camp. He's entering his third season, and while he hasn't been a bust, he has yet to make the impact expected of a player taken ninth in the draft.
The Bill Parcells regime has dramatically upgraded the roster since taking over last year, but the role of a No. 1 receiver remains unfilled. The speedy Ginn is the leading candidate, but he must shake the rap that he shies away from contact. More than once last year, the slender, 180-pound Ginn stepped out of bounds with a tackler bearing down.
e catch over the middle Monday night significant. It produced a modest 15-yard gain in the Dolphins' exhibition opener against Jacksonville, but second-year coach Sparano was pleased.
``I've seen progress there with Teddy catching the ball over the middle since I got here,'' Sparano said. ``I really wanted to see if he could bring that to the game, and he did.''
Playing only one period, Ginn also made an 11-yard reception and gained 14 yards on an end-around. If he's that productive in every quarter this season, the Dolphins will be delighted.
They believe Ginn could be poised for a breakout year. His development was slowed because he had to learn a new playbook working with a new coach and new quarterback in each of his first two NFL seasons.
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We will never see Ginn truly blossom until we have a QB that can throw the ball deep.

Did you see him put on the brakes in the last game after beating his man on a sideline run?

Did you see that he had to (yawn) come back to the ball AGAIN?

We simply cannot capitalize on his speed
 
This is getting old, every time Ginn is mentioned we get the "he will never reach his potential until". If Ginn plays like he did in the first quarter the other night every Sunday he will be considered one of the top #1s in the league. He just has to be consistent.
 
arcane1229 said:
This is getting old, every time Ginn is mentioned we get the "he will never reach his potential until". If Ginn plays like he did in the first quarter the other night every Sunday he will be considered one of the top #1s in the league. He just has to be consistent.
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No.

However "consistent" he is, he will be much more valuable to us if the QB can make use of his speed.

Ginn's best weapon is his speed.

Weak QB arm strength = less effective Ginn

Period.

If you don't get the concept, then imagine that you are a Stealth Bomber who is suddenly visible to radar. You could still drop your bombs, but hell, you are not nearly as effective as if you were able to be invisible to enemy radar.

Ginn is the Stealth bomber. Right now he is visible to enemy radar because our QB cannot hit him deep. If we had a strong-armed QB, he would be much more effective.

End of discussion
 
A limited qb equals limited offense.
21st ranked scoring offense anyone?
 
Well if we didn't have Fiedler ....errr.... I mean Pennington throwing to Ginn we'd have a vertical attack to be reckoned with.
 
DefensiveEnd76 said:
Well if we didn't have Fiedler ....errr.... I mean Pennington throwing to Ginn we'd have a vertical attack to be reckoned with.
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Vertical Attack?
To some here that isn't needed. Penny is a SB caliber qb....which he has yet to prove so.
Watching other teams this preseason...it really is sad to see the limitations MIA offense has on it w/ Penny at the helm. Whether people want to admit it or not, Penny's arm won't get stronger and he isn't getting younger. 10years in the league and has won Comeback Player of the Year, twice.
While in the first pre season game, nothing from either qb was great. Everyone knows what you get w/ Penny. A under thrown pass here and there is the norm.
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
We will never see Ginn truly blossom until we have a QB that can throw the ball deep.

Did you see him put on the brakes in the last game after beating his man on a sideline run?

Did you see that he had to (yawn) come back to the ball AGAIN?

We simply cannot capitalize on his speed
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Excuse #3 in Goons list of Ted Ginn's built in excuses.
 
Ted Ginn was responsible for 74 yards in only one quarter of action with that weak armed QB. Even if 34 yards of it were on a pass interference, it's one freaking quarter! He barely broke a sweat. And it's not like he was facing scrubs, he teed off on Rashean Mathis, Brian Williams, and a defense that people have some respect for.

Obviously I'm not saying that he will be responsible for 74 yards of offense in every quarter in which he appears (that would net him nearly 5,000 yards of offense on the year)...but the gaudiness of the number should show you that no, Ginn does not have to wait for a stronger-armed QB in order to "break out".
 
ckparrothead said:
Ted Ginn was responsible for 74 yards in only one quarter of action with that weak armed QB. Even if 34 yards of it were on a pass interference, it's one freaking quarter! He barely broke a sweat. And it's not like he was facing scrubs, he teed off on Rashean Mathis, Brian Williams, and a defense that people have some respect for.

Obviously I'm not saying that he will be responsible for 74 yards of offense in every quarter in which he appears (that would net him nearly 5,000 yards of offense on the year)...but the gaudiness of the number should show you that no, Ginn does not have to wait for a stronger-armed QB in order to "break out".
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Sorry, you missed the point.

The argument was not that Ginn could not do well with a weak-armed QB. The argument was that he would do BETTER with a strong-armed QB.

Do you dispute that?
 
double team and he was just a CB before...lol
 
ckparrothead said:
Ted Ginn was responsible for 74 yards in only one quarter of action with that weak armed QB. Even if 34 yards of it were on a pass interference, it's one freaking quarter! He barely broke a sweat. And it's not like he was facing scrubs, he teed off on Rashean Mathis, Brian Williams, and a defense that people have some respect for.

Obviously I'm not saying that he will be responsible for 74 yards of offense in every quarter in which he appears (that would net him nearly 5,000 yards of offense on the year)...but the gaudiness of the number should show you that no, Ginn does not have to wait for a stronger-armed QB in order to "break out".
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It was one quarter- look at it this way, it was 10% of his entire receiving yardage last year, so let's not do any projections or assumptions based on one quarter. He should be improved this year, and he also would benefit from playing with a QB who can throw deep. The entire offense would, to loosen things up. That being said, CP is the guy to run the team this year, average arm or not.

I still want to see TG return kickoffs- not punts- this year. We have WR depth to spell him if need be- not with his speed unless Armstrong makes it, but we can still work Hartline and Turner in there. He's been a frustrating return man, but he can still break some and I'd like to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vhdgvlDhzQ
 
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