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Raji will be way gone...and Brace looks like a reach with # 25....will he be there for #44??Your Thoughts
 
CB round 1 Vontae Davis or Darius Bulter
DT round 2 Ron Brace
OLB round 2b Clint Sintim
 
I cant remember the reporter that was on Sirius NFL yesterday but he said talking to Dolphins officials the teams biggest concern in the offseason is getting to the quarterback and stopping the run...take that how you want it...
 
Sen-Derrick Marks in the 2nd round (#56). He's athletic, hard-working, and has a nonstop motor. That's rare in a NT.
 
I don't think there's any way we don't take Dorell Scott out of Clemson. I've seen him listed from round 2-4, but I don't think he'll be there with our third rounder. If 56 is too high for him, trade down and pick him. He's a good NT for sure

With there being an new influx of teams making the switch to a 3-4 defense, defensive tackles that may be able to man the nose tackle position could become hot commodities. Clemson's Dorrell Scott could be one of those players as he is a legitimate nose tackle candidate in my opinion. Scott may seem a little undersized for a nose tackle at only 312 lbs, but he has the frame to add a good 10-15lbs without it affecting his level of play. He plays with a low pad level for the most part and can handle double teams with great regularity.

Scott shows an ability to play with a low pad level throughout the play and generally will do so regardless of the situation. However, he can appear unmotivated at times and can come off the ball a little higher than you’d like. He can be inconsistent, but for the most part he can play with a low pad level. He can fire off the ball and brings his hips when he makes contact with the offensive player. This motion is one aspect of his game that makes me believe that Scott could be a solid nose tackle candidate as he regularly jolts his man on first contact and gets under his pads. Scott will hit low and raise up, getting his man on his heels and in a prone position. He fires his hands out and upwards, although he does not always get them inside of his man's shoulders. Combined with a propensity to not lock out fully, and Scott can let his opponent get a better foothold for his hands. Scott's power and ability to play with leverage can overcome this fault however as he can overpower many players.

Dorrell Scott has tremendous base strength and it shows in his playing style. He will keep his feet moving through contact and generates a powerful leg drive; pushing his man back into the pocket. Against weaker, smaller centers and guards, Scott could be an absolute terror. These players may be able to use their speed to outflank him, but Scott would overpower them a majority of the time. He will work to get under his man and drive him back into the pocket, but he can do this almost to a fault. Sometimes he can get so low that he can lose track of the ball and be late to react. It does happen, but it is not problem that happens 2-3 times per game. In general though, if Scott does get his hands on his man he can manipulate him and will win most match ups against interior offensive players.

Scott does not lock out his arms as much as you may like to see, but he does get separation between himself and his blocker. He does not feature a wide variety of hand fighting techniques as he is pretty reliant on his initial jolt to help create some separation between himself and his man. He prefers to rip his man forward after getting him on his heels, but does not show a great rip move to get up the field quickly. Scott relies more on strength than on solid hand use to beat his man. If he can refine his motion and repertoire, he could become a force on the interior on the next level.

Despite being able to come off the ball, Scott does not possess a great ability to get up the field and provide much pass rush. He does have a good initial burst and can cover short areas fairly quickly, but the longer he has to run, the slower he will appear. As mentioned, Scott does not show a great deal of variety in terms of hand usage. The Clemson product lacks the ability to shed his man quickly if he does not knock him off balance. Players who can get a grip on him can prevent him from disengaging quickly, although they may still not be able to move Scott out of the way.

If Scott does get good penetration it is because he has simply blown his man off the ball, or has just thrown him out of the way off the snap. If his initial surge is handled, he will not continue to drive his man back, unless on a bull rush. He is not going to cross the guard or center's face and attack gaps. He can show enough quickness to get into either A gap, but he will not use a swim, arm over to work himself free. Chances are he will rely on a power move to get free. If Scott is in the backfield he is usually trying to blow the play up, not to rush the passer. As mentioned earlier, Scott does not possess great long range speed and the longer he runs the worse off he is. This shows up when he does attempt to get into the backfield. Even if he does beat his man off the snap, he can struggle to pull away and lacks a great burst to close on the ball. Once he come off the ball, Scott in unable to recoil and explode again to get up the field on a pass rush.

Scott really shines when he is asked to defend the run. He can handle double teams due to his ability to bend his knees and absorb contact. He will be knocked back on occasion, but he can reset his feet and hold his ground - occupying both players as he does so. His ability to stay low and play with a wide base allows him to control the middle. Even if he is pushed back initially, he can reset and hold his ground within two yards or less from the line of scrimmage. He will not try to split the double team by making himself small, he will simply try to overpower one of the blockers and move him out of the way. If they try to hook him and seal him from the play Scott can show that he possesses more than brute strength. Despite being a very powerful player, Scott has surprisingly fluid hips and will occasionally show a spin move as redirect. It does not always work and he can caught and turned, but he is quicker than you may think upon first glance.

He has limited lateral agility however, but he can slide enough to handle runs on either side of him. But, after two steps he will fall behind and will have try and turn and run down the line. He does not use a swim or arm over to work his way free in these situations either. He will rely on his punch and his opponent’s momentum to work himself free. He will try to throw his man off of him rather than use his hands to clear his man off. This will work against most players, but those with powerful hands will still maintain contact with him and can prevent him from easily making the play as the runner may get an extra split second to make a cut to escape.

Scott is a powerful player who could come into the league and dominate in the middle. However, he can have issues with his consistency from game to game. If he is up for a game, he will play well for the game, if he is not motivated fully, he can play like much more of a finesse player. When he does choose to play hard, he can be a force on the interior of the defense. He has enough lateral agility to adjust his path, and to slide down the line. He will never be considered a great pass rush threat as he struggles to disengage whilst trying to attack up the field. He does not show a great use of an arm or swim to work his way free and is more reliant on jerking his man’s pads down if he wished to get into the backfield to rush the passer.

Scott is not a one gap penetrator by any means and will be seen as a run stuffing defender. 3-4 teams will surely see him as a potential nose tackle candidate, as he can control the middle of the defense and handle being double teamed. He could use to become more refined in his use of his hands to work himself free rather than relying on a push or punch to gain separation from his man. But, he is one of the few players that has the base strength to come in and man the middle from the beginning in my opinion. If he ends up in the right situation with a hardnosed coach to motivate him, he could flourish.
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http://www.universaldraft.com/Dorrell_Scott.html
 
I think DT Chris Baker in the 3rd or Sammie Lee Hill in the 4/5th would be a better pick than Brace in the 2nd. Baker could end up being a 2nd round pick also . He is 6'2", 326 lbs and runs a 5.02 40 yd dash. Oh yeah he has a 35.5" vertical. 16 TFL and 8.5 sacks as a junior. Sammie Lee Hill is 6'4" 329 lbs, runs a 5.11 40 yd Either IMO would be better than wasting a pick in the early 2nd round
 
It just isn't going to be that easy to beat out Soliai and Joe Cohen.

Soliai weighed in at 344 at the combine and ran 5.10 40 dash and had a good 10 as well. Who else this size can move like that???????

Now with two years of developement there may not be a NT in this draft outside of Raji that could beat him out and Joe Cohen is pushing him.

The reports of the Dolphins need at NT have been greatly exaggerated.

Maybe next year, if Soliai and Cohen don't perform this year , there may be reason to worry but this year taking NT early would be less than wise.

This is the worst DT class of the decade and next year promises to be a bumper crop.

Why do so many people want to waste a pick on a kid who has very little chance of making the roster.

Not only will Cohen being pushing for the #2 spot but Starks is still a viable NT backup. He isn't good at NT but he will do in a pinch.

I think the Dolphins will draft a youngster in 2010. Somebody like Ndamakong Suh or Terrence Cody.

Comparing Suh to Brace would be like comparing a prize bull to a big ole Geogia Hog.
 
Cohen is a big (6'3" 320) and powerful guy who could surprise at NT and there really isn't any players at the NT position in this draft who are very enticing outside of Raji and BJ Raji has issues as well
 
I don't Raji will be a good nose tackle. He's much more of a one gap penetrator, regardless of his size.
 
I hate the brace love...the kid is fat and WAY overrated due to the lack of good NT options in this draft.
 
While I agree with most written here about the NT'S...can we have faith in Solial or Cohen?

Ferguson is on his last legs...can we wait till next year?

I don't see anything wrong using a late rounder for a NT. Perhaps Baker with a 6th rounder....teams will be wary to select him early...and Parcells has already proven to me that he doesn't mind bringing in guys that fight...as in McDaniel.
 
skipp2myloo13 said:
Marks isnt a NT. Please watch the film
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It's a projection. Keith Traylor started as a linebacker. Sen'Derrick Marks impressed Tommy Tuberville on a basketball court.

Tuberville then explained his philosophy for recruiting linemen. He prefers raw material over raw bulk. "You have to predict the future, and that's hard to do," he said...

It all starts with athletic ability. I don't like taking players that have to lose weight when you get them. A lot of the linemen, a lot of people bring them in and they're 6-5, 6-6, 330, 340 pounds and they say, 'We can bring that guy in and make him a better athlete.' We can't do that."
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/09/18/auburn.stories/

It's a very weak DT class this year. Ron Brace scares me because he benefited from playing next to B.J. Raji all year. Terrence Taylor looked awful his senior season. Chris Baker has some major red flags off-the-field. Sammie Lee Hill faced a lower level of competition.

I do like Dorell Scott and Vance Walker.

However Sen'Derrick Marks is a better athlete than all of them. Plus he's rated higher than all of them except for Brace. I say you start with the best athlete and get him into a strength and conditioning program. Let him learn from Jason Ferguson for a year and you might come out of a weak DT class with a gem. It's a risky pick.

You could make the safe pick, take Brace, and end up with an okay NT for the next few years or you could take a chance on a guy who could end up being great.
 
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