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Dolphins OL First Half vs Season in Pass Protect

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Here's a look at how the OL did in the first half of last year vs the season. It's a tale of two different OL's.

In he first 8 gams, the OL gave up 9 sacks, 18 hits, and 48 hurries. For the season, it was 31 sacks, 46 hits, and 133 hurries. Here's an individual breakdown, and I included grades as well. The fist half is first.

Satele- 0 sacks, 2 hits, 4 hurries. Grade of -0.7. Season- 3 sacks, 12 hits, 15 hurries. Grade of -12.1

James- 2- 8- 11 and -2.3. Season- 6- 12- 40 and -17.5

Pouncey- 1- 0- 6 and -2.7 (4 games). Season- 3- 3- 25 and -13.1

Collledge- 5- 2- 4 and -3.0. Season- 7- 5- 9 and a -6.0

Thomas- 0- 2- 9 and -2.8 (6 games). Season- 7- 7- 26 and -15.9.

Albert- 3- 1- 5 and a +12.8.

Smith- 1- 1- 4 and -4.4. Season- 2- 3- 5 and -3.1.

Lot's of numbers to sort out but, the bottom line is having two different OL's to look at. Best I can sort out is that our OL in the first half would have ranked #7 with Albrert with the rest being around #13. There were only 6 OL's who finished the year with a plus grade in pass blocking.
 
Those rankings make Smith's performance sound better than I believe he performed.
 
This is on individual performance, and it is somewhat amazing to me to see everyone falling off a cliff in the second half. I know you have to consider the position changes and turmoil in doing so but, you still have to block the guy in front of you. Do the guys playing next to you affect performance this much or was there something else?
 
FinHopeful said:
Those rankings make Smith's performance sound better than I believe he performed.
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Shelly only played 367 snaps between LG and RG, after the center mess. In pass blocking, his good and bad came vs Buff. First game was bad with a -3.5 playing RG. Game # 2 was good with a +1.2 playing LG. I was more surprised at how badly he did in run blocking, which was supposed to be the strong part of his game.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Shelly only played 367 snaps between LG and RG, after the center mess. In pass blocking, his good and bad came vs Buff. First game was bad with a -3.5 playing RG. Game # 2 was good with a +1.2 playing LG. I was more surprised at how badly he did in run blocking, which was supposed to be the strong part of his game.
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Smith is not starter mateerial
 
Southbeach 2 said:
This is on individual performance, and it is somewhat amazing to me to see everyone falling off a cliff in the second half. I know you have to consider the position changes and turmoil in doing so but, you still have to block the guy in front of you. Do the guys playing next to you affect performance this much or was there something else?
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a lot of it does matter with whom you are playing next too, communication, picking up blitzes stunts twists and such, being on the same page is the most important thing as a unit (COMMUNICATION)... you can lack that with certain people as well as people tossed around the line here and there.
 
We kind of knew it'd play out this way, but when Albert went down against Detroit, Miami's shot at the playoffs went down with him.
 
I remember the minute I seen Albert go down my stomach sunk, I knew that likely the end of our playoff hopes. I kept hope the rest of the season but I remember that was my first gut reaction.
 
I don't think Shelley is starter material either, but I did think we were better off with him out there as opposed to colledge
 
I believe that these first half stats and grades show that Benton and Lazor did a hell of a job with what was given. Never played together, two late signings, and a rookie. Add in a normal Pouncey and we would have been pretty good. This is the reason I do not think Hickey will be signing a high priced OG.

I give Shelly another year with no more center experiments. I'm thinking the same of Dallas, which no one agrees with. We shall see. I'm thinking Turner will be one OG, and the two will battle for the other.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
I believe that these first half stats and grades show that Benton and Lazor did a hell of a job with what was given. Never played together, two late signings, and a rookie. Add in a normal Pouncey and we would have been pretty good.
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I agree with this part 100%. As far as Shelly and Thomas I'd like too see them replaced with a top guard from free agency to start opposite Turner.Have them battle for a back up position or replace them with better talent. Hopefully the latter.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Here's a look at how the OL did in the first half of last year vs the season. It's a tale of two different OL's.

In he first 8 gams, the OL gave up 9 sacks, 18 hits, and 48 hurries. For the season, it was 31 sacks, 46 hits, and 133 hurries. Here's an individual breakdown, and I included grades as well. The fist half is first.

Satele- 0 sacks, 2 hits, 4 hurries. Grade of -0.7. Season- 3 sacks, 12 hits, 15 hurries. Grade of -12.1

James- 2- 8- 11 and -2.3. Season- 6- 12- 40 and -17.5

Pouncey- 1- 0- 6 and -2.7 (4 games). Season- 3- 3- 25 and -13.1

Collledge- 5- 2- 4 and -3.0. Season- 7- 5- 9 and a -6.0

Thomas- 0- 2- 9 and -2.8 (6 games). Season- 7- 7- 26 and -15.9.

Albert- 3- 1- 5 and a +12.8.

Smith- 1- 1- 4 and -4.4. Season- 2- 3- 5 and -3.1.

Lot's of numbers to sort out but, the bottom line is having two different OL's to look at. Best I can sort out is that our OL in the first half would have ranked #7 with Albrert with the rest being around #13. There were only 6 OL's who finished the year with a plus grade in pass blocking.
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Only two numbers that matter. the +12.8 posted by Albert, and the number that is not there for Alberts second half of the season. Yeah we need Albert back healthy for a full year if we're gonna have a chance at having a good o-line next year, unless we go tackle in the draft and get super lucky.
 
Shelley is very solid depth, great on traps and counters. Don't get the hate, he was way better than Colledge and Dallas. Totally capable spot starter.
 
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