zach8111
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they are gonna talk about why one of these three dolphins guys might be out of a guy and they: they showed culpepper, thomas, and taylor. i guarentee its culpepper but they are about to talk about it.
dolphins on cold pizza soooon!!
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Of course it's about Culpepper, I seriously don't know the reason of putting a clip of Zach and Jason and to say "One of these three guys" :rolleyes2. Trying to make a story out of nothing IMO.
zach8111
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actually i heard nothing about any of them three. all they talked about is miami getting green and they said miami will probably give up a second day not second round
and pick and a conditional pick next year
and pick and a conditional pick next year
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We do that and Mueller should be fired. Dont give up anything until after the draft if you ask me. Trent Green already has a contract, Wes Welker only had a tender. There is a big difference. Welker was badly wanted by someone. Trent Green badly wants to play for us and no one else. That means we have upper hand, Not KC and Peterson. Just wait. No hurry Randy! suck it up and stay put!!!! If we end up with Quinn, it could become moot.
shurtyj
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Second DAY pick, not second round pick. I think a 6th rounder this year, maybe a conditional 5th next year is fair. After all, if Green starts, stays healthy, and puts up decent numbers I'd say it's worth it. We did, remember, give up a 5th rounder for Joey.
I'm thinking now that the Dolphins should not give up anything for him, or at the very least a 7th round pick. Green is not going to play for KC this year. Peterson could hold on to him and cut him right before training camp starts, but he probably would not do that to a class guy like Green who has been there several years.
Green knows Cameron's offense, so it is not critical that he gets here soon. McNair did OK in Baltimore last year and he did not get traded until June or so.
Green knows Cameron's offense, so it is not critical that he gets here soon. McNair did OK in Baltimore last year and he did not get traded until June or so.
I don't know about you guys but with Mueller running the show, I am extremely confident that whatever pick or picks from next year that he gives up, will be replaced. He has a knack for this and it would not surprise me if he gave next years second or third to move up because he will replace the pick by next season.
SabanHater
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what are they saying right now? Is it all about C-pep and Green?
bigmiamifan
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A 6th or 7th this year and a conditional next year is absolutely fine with me and Mueller should be congratulated if so. Green would most likely start, so the picks for a starting QB.
Myles Fynch
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Hold the Line on Green Negotiations
The more I've thought about it, the less I'm willing to give up for Trent Green.
I was all for it when the compensation was (as we were lead to believe) a seventh round pick. But as the price from KC has increased, I've had the opportunity to revisit some of my previously held beliefs on the matter, and I've reconsidered a number of them.
1) TG as starter. The effects of the concussion lasted much longer than I thought they would, which leads me to believe you won't see TG play at a pre-2006 level again. 37 years old to boot.
2) TG as mentor to rookie QB. We have Cam and a QB coach. That should be enough. If it isn't, you probably hired the wrong QB coach. If TG gets yanked halfway through season one because he plays like he did in 2006 and he feels he didn't get a fair shot at being the starter... he won't hit his incentives, and it would almost certainly affect how he handles his new mentoring responsibilities.
3) Compensation. Regardless of how low the pick or picks are, I would rather use them on draft prospects where the upside was greater. That sexy-fast WR who's unpolished. That brutish OL prospect that was a walkon his senior year. That gunslinger QB that never played top competition while at Whatsamata U. The upside on Green, at 37 and post concussion, IMO, isn't that great. Steady and competent is the best you can hope for. While we are diddling with the TG experiment, other young QBs are becoming stars and we're slipping further behind.
I'm not opposed to adding Green, but now that Carl Peterson was wasted a month over price-haggling, either the compensation discussion returns to what it was before the Welker/Carr trades, or we call his bluff and wait for Green to get cut. Green will understand; we know this because he holds all the aces with his 7.2mil contract to KC and the fact that he liked our offer enough to agree to it. His agent seems determined to land him in Miami. If, in spite of all this, we lose out on Green, I can live with that. It beats overpaying.
Even if we get Quinn and Green, I'm still hoping Quinn beats Green in training camp to start day one. Maybe overly optimistic, but I'd at least give Quinn the opportunity and I think he has the ability to take advantage of it. Green would understandably be thrilled by this. Just not feeling this is the match made in heaven that I had previously thought.
The more I've thought about it, the less I'm willing to give up for Trent Green.
I was all for it when the compensation was (as we were lead to believe) a seventh round pick. But as the price from KC has increased, I've had the opportunity to revisit some of my previously held beliefs on the matter, and I've reconsidered a number of them.
1) TG as starter. The effects of the concussion lasted much longer than I thought they would, which leads me to believe you won't see TG play at a pre-2006 level again. 37 years old to boot.
2) TG as mentor to rookie QB. We have Cam and a QB coach. That should be enough. If it isn't, you probably hired the wrong QB coach. If TG gets yanked halfway through season one because he plays like he did in 2006 and he feels he didn't get a fair shot at being the starter... he won't hit his incentives, and it would almost certainly affect how he handles his new mentoring responsibilities.
3) Compensation. Regardless of how low the pick or picks are, I would rather use them on draft prospects where the upside was greater. That sexy-fast WR who's unpolished. That brutish OL prospect that was a walkon his senior year. That gunslinger QB that never played top competition while at Whatsamata U. The upside on Green, at 37 and post concussion, IMO, isn't that great. Steady and competent is the best you can hope for. While we are diddling with the TG experiment, other young QBs are becoming stars and we're slipping further behind.
I'm not opposed to adding Green, but now that Carl Peterson was wasted a month over price-haggling, either the compensation discussion returns to what it was before the Welker/Carr trades, or we call his bluff and wait for Green to get cut. Green will understand; we know this because he holds all the aces with his 7.2mil contract to KC and the fact that he liked our offer enough to agree to it. His agent seems determined to land him in Miami. If, in spite of all this, we lose out on Green, I can live with that. It beats overpaying.
Even if we get Quinn and Green, I'm still hoping Quinn beats Green in training camp to start day one. Maybe overly optimistic, but I'd at least give Quinn the opportunity and I think he has the ability to take advantage of it. Green would understandably be thrilled by this. Just not feeling this is the match made in heaven that I had previously thought.
YetanotherFan
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Well said man. Your absolutly right Steady and competent is the best you can hope for. If we get the TG of post concussion, we are back at 6-10 or worse. I second your last paragraph also!
juniorseau55
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Nice way of thinking, yea throw the young guy out there to deminish his confidence just like the lions and texans did.
No thank you...
Myles Fynch
durka durka
Scarred Marino for life, didn't it? Didn't he go in week five or six of his rookie year? I specifically said I hoped Quinn (if we landed him) won the job over Green in camp. I don't want anything handed to anyone who isn't ready for it.