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Dolphins use Read option on 54% of snaps vs Pats, Complete Lazor Offense Breakdown:

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The Dolphins used 4 main play Packages which I listed below listed in order of the frequency they were used :

1) Read Option Run or pass plays (true read option plays with a fake)
2) Option Pre-snap look where the running back runs a route or blocks for a pass (no fake/not actual option play/same package and look as read option play/necessary to keep defense honest)
3) I-form or pro-form offense.(and different variations of these offenses)
4) Shotgun formation with no back (4 or 5 WR)

71 total offensive plays were run and 57 of those snaps were in a Read option pre-snap formation (or 76%)
39 Snaps (or 54%) were actual read Option plays. (QB fakes hand off to RB and throws/runs keeper or QB hands to RB for a run)
24% Percent of snaps were not read option pre snap package looks.
16 1st downs were made using read option looks
4 1st downs were made off of non read option looks
Tannehill Completed 66% of his passes out when the dolphins showed a Read Option pre snap formation:
Tannehill Completed 40% of his passes when passing out of other formations (non RO looks)
20% of plays used pre-snap motion. (Approximately)

Ryan did not run the ball at all in this game because he did not need to! He did however run out of the pocket in some of these plays and in these cases he threw on the run. I think the run game was working so good that they did not risk him getting hurt. He did however run tons of fakes and was usually able to draw a defender at least temporarily My guess is we will see more runs next week but never more than 4 or 5 per game.

I made a Pre-game post predicting that Lazor would use the Read option in a similar fashion as he did in Tannehill's TD drive in the preseason. I predicted 60% would be actual option plays vs the Pats and I was off by -6% at 54%. Here is that pre game prediction post: http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...-Pat-s-Here-s-why&p=1065143690#post1065143690

Overall I think Lazor called a good game and he stayed with the run which wore down the Patriots. To me the stats below really show that Ryan Tannehill excels at this read option offense and I think as he gets better at running Lazor's offense he should improve.I think as the defenses get better at stopping the run in upcoming weeks, we will see ryan run more as well.

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Pre-Snap Read Option Look
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List of plays run and their frequency+results

Read Option Run:
Used:33Yards:179
1st downs:8
TD's 1
Motion 18%

Read Option Pre snap look: no Fake to RB (running back either goes out for a pass route or becomes blocker. on these plays tannehill does not fake to the RB)
Used:18
Yards:91
Tanne comp: 61%
1st downs: 7
TD's 1
Ints 0
Motion 11%

Read Option Play action Pass:
Used: 4
Yards:13
1st downs:0
TD's 0
Ints 1
Motion 50%
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NON READ Option LOOK

I-Form/Pro Form Pass:
Used:10
Yards:35
Comp: 33%
1st downs: 2
drops: 2 (adjusted for drops 55%comp)
TD's 0
Ints 0
Motion 22%

I-Form/Pro Form Run:

Used:2
Yards:12
1st downs:1
TD's 0
Motion 0%

Shotgun Formation (with no RB)
Used:2
Yards:23
1st downs:1
Motion 50%
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Exotic looks

Read Option Double Look with+TE: (this look was used twice and also used in the preseason I belive on the scoring TD in the preseason as well)
Used:2 (1 run 1 pass)
Yards: 10
comp: 100%
1st downs: 1
Motion 50%
Below is a photo breakdown of the TD from this interesting formation:

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For more information on the Read Option read Digitals awesome post Defending the Read Option, listed below:
http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?338963-Defending-the-Read-Option
 
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Excellent break down...
 
Great post and predicting catch22. If you want more 8n sight there is a link 8n my signature to defending the read option as well.
 
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The read option w. a QB that can truly pass the ball (in addition to being a running threat) is a whole different animal than the read option w. a QB who is primarily a good runner (and not great passer).

The read option is a good passing QB is a far more enduring offense than the read option w. a good running QB (and mediocre or poor passer). The latter is a fad. The former will be around awhile.

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Great thread, and awesome break down. I'm loving what I'm seeing from Lazor and his offense. Buffalo has a tough D even without Kiko, Byrd and possibly Aaron Williams. Anxious to see what we do this week.
 
Thanks, I shortened the thread quite a bit from my initial post. I think I went overboard with details lol.. I spent a good amount of time making it so I am glad its getting a second look tonight!
 
"Ryan did not run the ball in this game because he did not need to!"

LOL. Well, that's the glossy way to look at it. The more correct version is that the plays are not true read option. Not even close. I've been watching option football since the wishbone and veer in the late '60s. Those were true option designs, with the quarterback's head up and evaluating the defense at every intersection of the fullback lead or pitch. Tannehill was doing none of that. When it's a true option the distribution is much more even, since naturally the plays will evolve differently with varying emphasis and competence from the defense. In this case we're supposed to believe it's a true option but Tannehill simply never found a situation in which keeping the ball offered the greatest advantage. Believe whatever you want but you're not going to fool a handicapper, particularly someone who used to watch Mildren, Davis, Lott and Holieway keep the ball 20+ times in certain games.

Heck, the Dolphins themselves weren't using the term read option. That in itself is very telling. Tannehill and Philbin said "inside zone" on the post game show, describing the running plays.

I realize that after a victory everything is flowery and we want to believe we're doing magical things out there.
 
I've been watching option football since the wishbone and veer in the late '60s. Those were true option designs, with the quarterback's head up and evaluating the defense at every intersection of the fullback lead or pitch. Tannehill was doing none of that. When it's a true option the distribution is much more even, since naturally the plays will evolve differently with varying emphasis and competence from the defense. In this case we're supposed to believe it's a true option but Tannehill simply never found a situation in which keeping the ball offered the greatest advantage. Believe whatever you want but you're not going to fool a handicapper, particularly someone who used to watch Mildren, Davis, Lott and Holieway keep the ball 20+ times in certain games.

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"Ryan did not run the ball in this game because he did not need to!"

LOL. Well, that's the glossy way to look at it. The more correct version is that the plays are not true read option. Not even close. I've been watching option football since the wishbone and veer in the late '60s. Those were true option designs, with the quarterback's head up and evaluating the defense at every intersection of the fullback lead or pitch. Tannehill was doing none of that. When it's a true option the distribution is much more even, since naturally the plays will evolve differently with varying emphasis and competence from the defense. In this case we're supposed to believe it's a true option but Tannehill simply never found a situation in which keeping the ball offered the greatest advantage. Believe whatever you want but you're not going to fool a handicapper, particularly someone who used to watch Mildren, Davis, Lott and Holieway keep the ball 20+ times in certain games.

Heck, the Dolphins themselves weren't using the term read option. That in itself is very telling. Tannehill and Philbin said "inside zone" on the post game show, describing the running plays.

I realize that after a victory everything is flowery and we want to believe we're doing magical things out there.

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"Ryan did not run the ball in this game because he did not need to!"

LOL. Well, that's the glossy way to look at it. The more correct version is that the plays are not true read option. Not even close. I've been watching option football since the wishbone and veer in the late '60s. Those were true option designs, with the quarterback's head up and evaluating the defense at every intersection of the fullback lead or pitch. Tannehill was doing none of that. When it's a true option the distribution is much more even, since naturally the plays will evolve differently with varying emphasis and competence from the defense. In this case we're supposed to believe it's a true option but Tannehill simply never found a situation in which keeping the ball offered the greatest advantage. Believe whatever you want but you're not going to fool a handicapper, particularly someone who used to watch Mildren, Davis, Lott and Holieway keep the ball 20+ times in certain games.

Heck, the Dolphins themselves weren't using the term read option. That in itself is very telling. Tannehill and Philbin said "inside zone" on the post game show, describing the running plays.

I realize that after a victory everything is flowery and we want to believe we're doing magical things out there.

I think the other thing to remember is Bill B is a pretty good teacher and coach, I think half our success was the outside guys stayed at home so Ryan never kept the run, I'll be interested to see this week if the Bills have the same discipline.
 
they just look like read option but its a str8 hand off.
 
The more correct version is that the plays are not true read option. Not even close. I've been watching option football since the wishbone and veer in the late '60s. Those were true option designs, with the quarterback's head up and evaluating the defense at every intersection of the fullback lead or pitch. Tannehill was doing none of that.

Wishbone and option are different animals from the zone-read. I've explained this to you before, but I'll do it again. Maybe it will stick. The ONLY read you make on a zone-read run is the deliberately unblocked defender (usually the backside end or OLB, but can be an ILB or NT/DT). If the unblocked player sits on the keep, the QB hands it off. If the unblocked player crashes (goes into backside pursuit of the RB), the QB keeps it. That simple.

The reason the wishbone and veer have gone extinct at most levels is that is requires the QB to over-think the situation and a clever defense can manipulate the offense into doing what it wants. That is, obviously, not optimal.

I'll make a friendly wager with you, let's say 500 vBucks. When the Fins play the Lions, the read will come off Suh or Fairly at least half the time.

When it's a true option the distribution is much more even, since naturally the plays will evolve differently with varying emphasis and competence from the defense. In this case we're supposed to believe it's a true option but Tannehill simply never found a situation in which keeping the ball offered the greatest advantage. Believe whatever you want but you're not going to fool a handicapper, particularly someone who used to watch Mildren, Davis, Lott and Holieway keep the ball 20+ times in certain games.

Because the backside guy isn't stupid and didn't crash. I never saw it, anyway. Feel free to prove me wrong, however. I certainly missed both a double read and triple option when I watched the game the first time.

Heck, the Dolphins themselves weren't using the term read option. That in itself is very telling. Tannehill and Philbin said "inside zone" on the post game show, describing the running plays.

That's because the play is, at its heart, the same inside zone run that Peyton Manning and Edgerrin James were so successful with. The only difference is that the QB reads the assigned defender and has the option to keep it. You also have an outside zone run and the option pitch taking the place of the stretch run play.
 
Just a great, great post. Hopefully you can provide more of these as the season continues. LETS GO DOLPHINS!!!
 
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