Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phinatic8u, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:28 PM.
Throw out the 5'10 stuff. That is a legit concern for any size QB we bring in.
No kidding, actually with Murrays elusiveness it would serve him well here
I would imagine a ton of rolling out?
I've never advocated trading up for Murray.
Better a 10 percent chance with picks in hand than a zero percent chance.
Well the kid has a set of wheels and behind our line he would be tested so yeah I could see a lot of rollouts, would hate to see him do Lamar Jackson at that size though.
Philly spent several years prior to that move building up their team though. They didn’t just commit to a rebuild and throw picks to move up for a QB.
Had one fell into their lap during their initial build, or within reason, they would of taken a guy, but they weren’t going to destroy 2 drafts just to move up for a QB and have no foundation to surround him with.
Getting a QB at all cost would be foolish in our scenario.
Getting a QB within reason is the proper approach in 2019.
And by overpaying now, you're absolutely making sure your rookie QB will by surrounded by crap for 3 of his 5 rookie contract years... At least try to provide the rook with a decent OL so that even in losses there's a learning experience, as opposed to a FML experience...
Cant draft scared though. If a move is there to make to get a qb, you gotta get it. Building a OL shouldn't take 2 offseasons.
If Murray falls even little I'd be mad if Grier DIDN'T try to get him. Nothing matters until the guy under center matters.
If Murray doesn't come off the board at #1, I'd want our team ready to move aggressively (very) to get him.
So tired of this one foot in one foot out approach.
Incorrect, there was nothing particularly special about Philly, they were picking #13 like we are. They came out of Chip Kelly era who was known as a great demolitioner.
They DID just commit to FULL REBUILD. They THREW AWAY both players and picks to get to #2, and get a NEW QB. And they also got a NEW DC. That is a Full Rebuild, they were redoing the QB and the defense, just like we are doing.
They JUST DID IT.
And that's what we need, someone who get things done at the GM spot.
OMG You mean they found a sucke... I mean team to take on Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonso to aid them moving up in the draft.
Tannnbaum doesn’t work here anymore.
When Philly won the Super Bowl, 6 of their 9 players on the trenches were drafted by them in Round 1 or 2.
It wasn’t a rebuild more than it was a retooling of getting rid of Chip Kellys failed acquisitions and add smarter pieces in FA.
That enabled them to go after the QB.
They had a foundation in place . . . .we do not. Our Oline has a great LT and literal **** everywhere else. Our DLine has 2 serviceable day 3 guys, a current first round bust and a guy we are likely trading.
Its not the same . . . Our GM is proving quite savvy so far in FA.
I agree with a couple of posts above. Sure it'd be great to have a top QB but a rookie QB on a horrible team is not a good way to go. You give a bunch of picks away and you have nothing to build with
I honestly don't get the idea of using a ton of resources on a QB then not giving him fighting chance to have success early on. Under the scenario of "2 1sts and 2 2nds" you are not only screwing over that QB year one, but also the next two years as you will have no real resources to help him. Look at what happen to Rosen and Darnold this year compared to Mayfield. Baker has a good o-line and a number of offensive weapons right out the gate...Rosen had trash paired with piles of ****.
I agree with the approach we are taking. Build a foundation then bring in the QB to a situation set up for him to have success.
Have to remember that Gruden loves quarterbacks and likely realizes he can only get so far with Carr. I think the Raiders are actually a team to watch for Haskins at #4.