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Dom Capers, the Tea Leaf

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Apparently, re-signing Dom Capers is a sign. That sign is we've narrowed our list of HC Candidates to offensive minded coaches who understand that we're keeping Dom. This is a sign of LIMITED coaching authority for our next coach. He'll be #1, as long as he doesn't mess with #1.5 and as long as he says "Yessir" to the General Manager of the organization. And if he WINS NOW.

This could be a sign of a whole bunch of things. We hire, for instance, Brian Shottenheimer because he is young. We test out the group on what is apparently a decent core of players. They've got ONE YEAR, then there is Bill Cowher hanging around in the wings
 
Re-signing Capers is GOLD. This is the first bright spot of the offseason. This and JT saying he isn't retiring. Capers has this defense looking good. Things can only get better on defense now.
 
Bad Move

Frankly, contracting Dom Capers as Defensive co-ordinator was a bad move. It limits your options. If you're going to re-sign him, make him head coach. You don't dictate to the HC that you're going to hire, who it is he absolutely HAS to work with. You've already undermined the guy.
 
Prakk said:
Frankly, contracting Dom Capers as Defensive co-ordinator was a bad move. It limits your options. If you're going to re-sign him, make him head coach. You don't dictate to the HC that you're going to hire, who it is he absolutely HAS to work with. You've already undermined the guy.
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This seemed backwards to me also. When was the last time a coordinator was signed to a contract with no head coach in place? A new head coach would want to select his own coordinators wouldn't he?

So I agree with you.
 
capers being re-signed is why i'd guess than gailey's gonna be the coach. mora is a defensive guy who would have his own ideas about that side of the ball, while gailey is an offensive guy and has previously worked on the same staff w/ capers at another stop. just assuming here ;)
 
Huck Phinn said:
This seemed backwards to me also. When was the last time a coordinator was signed to a contract with no head coach in place? A new head coach would want to select his own coordinators wouldn't he?

So I agree with you.
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Actually this happened back in 1982 with DaBears. In what was his final pair of moves, George Hallas after firing Neal Anderson as head coach, gave Buddy Ryan a new contract as defensive co-ordinator. After that he hired Mike Ditka to be the head coach, with the understanding that Buddy Ryan had to be the defensive co-ordinator.
Ditka of course did not like the arrangement, considering he and Ryan detested and mocked each other. However within four years that combo would produce an extremely dominating Super Bowl winner. :rolleyes2
The Bronco used to do this also by keeping Joe Collier as defensive co-ordinator throughout the Lou Saban/John Ralston/Red Miller/Dan Reeves/Wade Phillips turnover periods.
Also four years ago when Tapma dumped Tony Dungy, they kept Monty Kiffin as the defensive co-ordinator, while the went out and traded two 1st round picks to the team that practices "Commitment to Stupidity" to get John "Chucky" Gruden to coach the team. Ah that team won the Super Bowl that year.:rolleyes:
 
Time for a new model

Huck Phinn said:
This seemed backwards to me also. When was the last time a coordinator was signed to a contract with no head coach in place? A new head coach would want to select his own coordinators wouldn't he?

So I agree with you.
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Tony Dungy was hired in Indianapolis on the condition that Tom Moore remain the OC, and that no changes be implemented in the offense. Dungy was hired to essentially coach the defense, period. Not long ago the general managers would hire the staff as well as the head coach, which often led to awkward working relationships. Limiting the head coaches authority is an idea whose time has arrived in Miami. Everyone from Shula to Johnson to Wannstadt to Saban had autocratic control over everything, and it was an unmitigated disaster every single time. The rumor is that A.J. Smith delegated the authority over offensive game plans to Cam Cameron, limiting Marty Schottenheimer's input. Of the 12 teams in the playoffs, only Belicheck had final say over everything. The Dolphins are one of the few organizations to give this unlimited authority to coaches.

Why would you allow a new head coach to come in and essentially pick his own guys on defense when defense as presently constituted is not only the team's greatest strength, it's one of the league's best units? Turnover at the coordinator position has killed this franchise. Every year players are adjusting to new schemes, or new coordinators. Let the head coach adjust to the system, and the personnel, especially if that system is working.
 
Seeing that the Dolphins spoke to 12 candidates before reaching the extension with Capers means that the 4-5 coaches on the short list had either agreed to work with Capers or had recommended keeping him themselves.

This is speculation, but it makes sense. It would have been a bad move to let arguably the best defensive coordinator in football walk because some new guy refuses to work with him.
 
Bad organization.

His'nBeatYour'n said:
"It would have been a bad move to let arguably the best defensive coordinator in football walk because some new guy refuses to work with him."
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Head coaches have a healthy EGO. So it's a bad move to tie their hands in advance. It could be though, that Chan Gailey is coming back and this is already a pair used to working with each other.
 
mf52dolphin said:
Actually this happened back in 1982 with DaBears. In what was his final pair of moves, George Hallas after firing Neal Anderson as head coach, gave Buddy Ryan a new contract as defensive co-ordinator. After that he hired Mike Ditka to be the head coach, with the understanding that Buddy Ryan had to be the defensive co-ordinator.
Ditka of course did not like the arrangement, considering he and Ryan detested and mocked each other. However within four years that combo would produce an extremely dominating Super Bowl winner. :rolleyes2
The Bronco used to do this also by keeping Joe Collier as defensive co-ordinator throughout the Lou Saban/John Ralston/Red Miller/Dan Reeves/Wade Phillips turnover periods.
Also four years ago when Tapma dumped Tony Dungy, they kept Monty Kiffin as the defensive co-ordinator, while the went out and traded two 1st round picks to the team that practices "Commitment to Stupidity" to get John "Chucky" Gruden to coach the team. Ah that team won the Super Bowl that year.:rolleyes:
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Thanks for the nice reply bro. I appreciate it!
 
Prakk said:
Head coaches have a healthy EGO. So it's a bad move to tie their hands in advance. It could be though, that Chan Gailey is coming back and this is already a pair used to working with each other.
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Who says their hands are tied if they were the candidates who responded positively to the idea of keeping the best DC in football? This goes triple for the offensive coaches. They would be expected to hire the best guy for the job, not just a friend.
 
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