Dowell Loggains is new OC

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  1. where's th'fish

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    Man, we might hate WR screens now, but Lazor called even more of those suckers and close cousins. Frankly his system was condescending towards Tannehill. I'm sure glad he's gone.
     
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    Wow. This kinda crap is like reserved for the porta potty!

    NO!!! It's can't be happenin!

    Gase can't be this shallow!?
     
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    Funny how Lazor is now with Andy Dalton, a player who suffers from the same difficulty handling pressure as Tannehill. The thinking is, get the ball out fast, end of problem. The trouble with that is it also takes away both players' strengths. Lazor's system would be better suited for a lesser not-very-good gunslinger type of QB, Matt Moore, for example. So I wouldn't call him the worst of anything, but he's one of the coaches I've been happier to see go, ever.
     
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    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    Gase calls the plays anyway. Who cares
     
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    It doesn't matter gase will be toast next year he's too busy trying to bring in his buddies
     
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    I tell you one thing he better bring in an experienced defensive coordinator if he keeps Matt Burke and doesn't change the scheme expect more of the same
     
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    Yeah but what kind of message does this send? Gase basically replaces Clyde for his own bad play calling? Another scapegoat?
     
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    Truth is I don’t like where Miami is headed. I don’t think Gase lasts more than 2 more years.
     
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    I'm not excited about this, but it's OK. I was very unhappy with Christensen ... didn't seem to have a handle on things in Indianapolis or here. Players weren't accountable.

    Loggains is an extension of Gase, so we should see something more akin to when Gase actually was an OC, which should be an improvement. Our season died by Tannehill's injury, so next year it should live again with his return. Loggains is just a more responsible cop to toe the line so Gase can get his message across to the offense.
     
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    Not even
     
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    Instead of this uninspiring Bears hire to replace an existing coordinator, why for ****s sake arent we grabbing Fangio from that coaching staff to replace Burke?? Wouldn't that make more sense?
     
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    Well, his name reminds too much of Bilbo Baggins for that NOT to be his nickname next season. So there's that.
     
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    Christiansen is going to hold Jarvis Landrys jock on the bus. That's going to keep Landry in Miami. Imagine having such a large burden removed from day to day living? Now that's traveling in style!
     
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    This is very true. When Joe Philbin was OC for the Packers and not responsible for playcalling, he was responsible for keeping the field free of gum wrappers. A totally underrated but necessary job.
     
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    well, the first step has been completed on Gase being fired
     
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    Being good at managing players/personality, communicating with Gase, and working with a QB are three very important/positive things. Most people here don’t know **** about the guy other than what’s posted on Twitter, me included.

    If those attributes exist and he’s got a relationship with Gase, I am fine with the hire. It’s just going to serve as a preparer for the plays/schemes of Gase’s choosing, and another seat at the table.

    Offense has a lot to prove next year.
     
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    For me, it's all about chemistry. Look at yourselves. Have you ever worked at a job where things just didn't click or go well only to then move on to a new one that seemed like the perfect dream job? Chances are the difference was the people you worked with. It just feels right. It has been said things weren't working out with Christensen. The chemistry wasn't right. We won't know if things will work out with Loggains, but at this point we don't know that they won't.
     
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    I agree! If they have another losing season next tear with RT at QB then this experiment will be over.
     
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    Sounds peachy but you can't fire him.
     
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    No I can’t but maybe Ross will grow some balls and do it. Harbaugh would be a much better option. Look at what he did with a loser team in the 49ers with Kap at QB. Gasy bringing in his Chicago buddies isn’t going to improve anything.
     
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    S.O.S.D.D.

    Another coach and one more year for the players to quit on
     
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    Keep the Chicago connection alive and bring back Wannstedt as DC lol
     
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    And people thought we ran a lot of bubble screens before this hire.
     
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    If it's better it'll be due to the threat Tannehill presents and absolutely nothing that Gase would do
     
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    Hire another OC... what a joke. Just another step toward Gase being fired in 2020.
     
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    Then: being 29th in rushing attempts is proof you are terrible, and the QB doesn't stand a chance with that imbalance

    Now: being 32nd in rushing attempts means ____________
     
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    Look at the last 3 weeks. Miami rushing 30% of the time for last place. Chicago with Loggains was second to last at 35%....
     
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    2020? Gase needs to be fired after the 2018 season if things don't go well.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of this appointment. I think Gase needs to surround himself with a few coaches who think outside the box and are not just old friends of his and yes men to his system. I would've liked to have seen the Dolphins appoint an experienced and proven OC to really get our offence going next season.
     
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    Hiring Bilbo doesn't mean much, OCs for us are basically just paid interns, and in this case Gase is doing his buddy a favor, on Ross' dime. Christianson doesn't give a **** what he's called, he'll just keep doing what he's been doing, whatever that is.

    The real meat on the bone in this story is Darlington's comment that Gase needs to be spoken to in a certain way at a certain time. It goes back to the Timmons going AWOL fiasco. The same guy that broke that story also let it slip that it was over a power struggle. (incidentally the same guy says Gase and Landry don't like each other and Landry has been sent to the locker room at practice before, and he said this midseason) Timmons didn't go insane temporarily, he was like what the **** did I get myself into.
     
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    I guess Gase was looking for a guy who could more effectively dumb-down our offense to fit our dumb players.
     
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    Well I think I saw he just interviewed for the HC job in Chicago and wanted by the Packers if not- so maybe Gase reached out
    To him or maybe not but I know what Job I would take if between GB and MIA
     
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    At least he'll bring that winning culture with him
    8 wins(2 in overtime) and 24 losses in his 2 years as OC for the Bears
     
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    "To make little boys ask questions", of course!
     
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    Sort of what I was thinking. I read that Loggains excels at holding players accountable. Reading between the lines, this (along with communication) may have been a big issue with Clyde. He sort of came across as a congenial guy who may have gotten too buddy/buddy with the players. Way too many dumb pre-snap penalties this year as well as guys not knowing their assignments. Sometimes you just need a hard-nosed guy who isn't afraid to get in the faces of "star" players.

    I saw a comment about a player last week tearing it up in practice and Gase was not amused because he felt the player should have been playing that way long ago. One thing is for sure, this team lacked accountability. You could see it on both sides of the ball with all the inconsistencies. How else do you explain the team dominating one week and then laying an egg the next?

    I hope they continue to turn over the coaching staff....DB coach, DL coach, etc.
     
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    Exactly! 2018 playoffs or fired. To continue mediocrity for continuity is insane. Look at the Bengals. Second longest tenure with Lewis and what do they have to show for it....what ZERO playoff wins! **** that, people need to know that if they don’t produce then they are fired. No more blaming everyone else, the blame needs to start a lt the top like a real leader. Hell, playoffs next year or blow it up is what Ross should be saying.
     
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    I don't know a lot about Dowell Loggains. He didn't have a high profile. For someone who has had various offensive roles on some pretty crappy teams, he has been steadily promoted and given opportunities. Interested to learn more about him. What are his strengths and weaknesses? Is he a disciplinarian? Has he had any success in developing talent? Who?
    Also interesting to note that Miami didn't take an opportunity to interview any other Offensive Coordinator candidates. It almost seems like Coach Gase realized his old buddy was available and then Tannenbaum and Grier raced to sign him up.
     
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    Sounds like the stuff we heard about Gase when he was hired here. Apparently the rumors were a tad off. Hopefully Loggains will be able to incorporate these traits.

    Communication may be the problem. If so few understand Gase it might be time to change the way he communicates. I would be interested to know after this round of coaching shake ups how many of his original hirings will be on the team that weren't here before him.

     
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    John maybe,not 3rd place Jimmy!!!!..At Stanford he had Andrew Luck,that covered up a bunch...then he goes to San Fran....a team that he didn't build,changes from Smith to Kap,(that right there should disqualify him from anything)..but it caught DC's
    off guard for a bit,till they caught on.
    He parlayed that into a Super Bowl appearance,that John schooled him.
    Now at Michigan,after HOW many years,3rd place Jimmy hasn't even won his division!!!..What?..Fourth place this year!!!
    Jimmy would rather have sleep overs with recruits,than actually ,you know,...win!!!
     

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