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Draft smart not talented

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If you can get both great!

Too much emphasis is placed on a players 40, weight to speed etc. Talent is essential but a little less talent supplanted by intelligence is far, far more important especially when it comes anchor positions. Not skill positions but anchor positions.

Bellichick continually drafts guys that will learn their position and 3 others as well as anyone. He's not so worried about the occasional play where his players are outskilled by the others. Football is the only true team sport and it requires 11 guys doing their jobs better than the opposing 11. They don't have to be the most talented, they just have to perform their jobs the best for the longest time.

Can you be slow and be in the NFL? No. But you also don't have to be the fastest guy in the world either. So much about football is body position, field position and approach. If players are taught well, can learn and are willing to learn, they will excel.

It's obvious that Saban didn't teach any of his new or existing players enough this preseason and continues not to during the offseason. I understand the necessity to rebuild. I know it takes time.

However, if you are as great as he's been touted, you wouldn't have as poor a season against such poor competition no matter what your talent pool is. Pund for pound Miami has as much talent as anyone, certainly more than most of the teams that have beaten them. That's as glaring a failure on the coaching staff as can possibly be made.
 
I disagree, this team has far less talent than we homers wished it to have before this disaster unfolded. It was us homers who said what great talent we have, not Saban. He inherited a disaster, and it will take years to straighten out the mess left by Wannspiel. We have so little talent its unbelievable.
 
Fer cryin' out loud ... you're starting ANOTHER new thread??

Mods: Move this to the Draft Forum PLEASE!!! :rolleyes2


 
First of all it isn't a draft thread. It's a talent vs. intellgence thread.

Are you saying that Miami has less physical talent than the Jets, Bills, Tennessee, Houston or Green Bay? Honestly?
 
I agree. Potential is the most worthless word in the NFL. Mental toughness, intelligence, and character are worth more than raw physical prowess....just ask Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, etc....
 
What is this, re-inventing the wheel on a message board?

Talent is talent and doesn't just have to do with a guy's speed and measurements. QB talent has as much to do with eyes, timing, and accuracy as it does arm strength. WR talent has as much to do with eyes and ability to focus on the ball as it does speed.

I love how people start railing against measurements pretending that GMs base their entire drafts on 40 times. Yeah. Ok. Whatever.

I put together an excel system and used a lot of time to draw it up. Was it based on like, 4 or 5 measurements? No, it was based more like on about 20 of them...and I considered it to be kind of a crude, slapped-together system.

40 time is just one of those measurements. You've got hand size (highly important for WRs and DEs,somewhat important for OTs), arm length (highly important for OTs and DEs), number of bench reps of the 225 pound bar (measures high-strength endurance more than anything), maximum bench press, maximum leg press, maximum power clean (core football strength), vertical, broad jump, 10 yard split, 20 yard split, 40 yard split, 20 yard shuttle, 40 yard shuttle, cone drill, wonderlic, height, and weight. God knows I probably left something out.

And for all that, altogether those ratings are used as a context-builder for what you see on the football field.

For every Anquan Boldin whose actions on the film are able to be replicated on the pro field despite the measurements he had, there are a HUNDRED or even THOUSAND guys whose college field heroics could not be replicated on the pro field when he has those kinds of measurements.
 
Ekinger said:
First of all it isn't a draft thread. It's a talent vs. intellgence thread.

Are you saying that Miami has less physical talent than the Jets, Bills, Tennessee, Houston or Green Bay? Honestly?

Actually, it started our as a draft thread then veered off into a talent vs intellengence thread, then spun out of control into another bashing Saban thread..
 
well, then I guess you should like the Jason Allen pick. First round talent and brain.
 
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