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Duriel Harris says Shula never threatened to cut him over painkillers

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Thursday, a lawsuit was filed in Baltimore alleging illegal use of painkillers by all 32 NFL franchises, uses that included forcing players to take painkilling shots, keeping the impacts and side-effects of those shots from the players, and using the players' names to fill prescriptions without the players' knowledge. Included in the lawsuit were several coaches who were said to have threatened to cut a player if he did not take the painkiller and get back on the field. For Miami Dolphins fans, and much of the NFL as a whole, the biggest name included in those allegations is the winningest coach in NFL history, Hall of Famer Don Shula.

There is a problem with that allegation however. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of 13 former players, one of whom, wide receiver Duriel Harris, played for the Dolphins. And, he said Shula never made that threat.
Asked by the Miami Herald's Dave Hyde if Shula had ever threatened to cut him if he did not take a painkiller and get back on the field, Harris replied, "No, he didn't."
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Doesn't seem like Shula to me
 
nick1 said:
Doesn't seem like Shula to me
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You have no idea what people will do to win in any sports. They don't even call it cheating anymore, they call it a competitive advantage. Name one athlete that didn't cheat to break records and win championships? Bill Belicheat, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Lance Armstrong, Maradona (considered a soccer god but scored a goal with his hand), Boston Marathon winner Rosie Ruiz who took the subway to a stop about one mile from the finish line, Pete Rose, etc...

I'm a huge Dolphins fan but I will not say that Shula is 100% innocent.
 
BenchFiedler said:
You have no idea what people will do to win in any sports. They don't even call it cheating anymore, they call it a competitive advantage. Name one athlete that didn't cheat to break records and win championships? Bill Belicheat, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Lance Armstrong, Maradona (considered a soccer god but scored a goal with his hand), Boston Marathon winner Rosie Ruiz who took the subway to a stop about one mile from the finish line, Pete Rose, etc...

I'm a huge Dolphins fan but I will not say that Shula is 100% innocent.
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And you have no idea what plaintiffs and Lawyers will say or do to win a lawsuit. You can't slander or libel someone without proof so your opinion means nothing.
 
jlfin said:
And you have no idea what plaintiffs and Lawyers will say or do to win a lawsuit. You can't slander or libel someone without proof so your opinion means nothing.
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I'm surprised he's trying to use the names of athletes like Armstrong to prove a point about winning. Only thing Armstrong did was prove that cheating doesn't pay. Ultimate shame to have your name stricken from all record books except as a footnote or asterisk.
 
Pete Rose bet on his own team to win. I don't recall Rose doing something to attain an illegal advantage.
 
Bopkin02 said:
Pete Rose bet on his own team to win. I don't recall Rose doing something to attain an illegal advantage.
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If you can bet on your own team, it is because you can control (Not Predict) the outcome of the game!!!
 
would taking painkillers be considered cheating though??? illegal???

tons and tons of athletes, especially in football, do this or has done this!!!
 
Wildbill3 said:
I'm surprised he's trying to use the names of athletes like Armstrong to prove a point about winning. Only thing Armstrong did was prove that cheating doesn't pay. Ultimate shame to have your name stricken from all record books except as a footnote or asterisk.
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And that was not the case with the Cheatriots, and thats why Godell and his tenure in the NFL are a disgrace!!!!
 
I doubt guys like babe Ruth and Jim Brown cheated. They were so ahead of their time they didn't need to. Also, pain killers isn't cheating is it?
 
We all see Grandpa Don now, but when he was coaching (I'm going back to Colts Days) guy was a football coach...a win at any cost kind of guy. I wouldn't put this past him, but I also don't think it was out of the norm either...different era and all.
 
royalshank said:
I doubt guys like babe Ruth and Jim Brown cheated. They were so ahead of their time they didn't need to. Also, pain killers isn't cheating is it?
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funny you said that.... at Syracuse University Jim Brown was an amazing RB on the football team, but was also a top notch athlete on the Lacrosse team as well. now there is a rule that came about in Lacrosse called "thumbing". basically this rule can be said to be geared toward and strictly enforced due to Jim Brown.... he would tend to just place his thumb over the ball, run and plow everyone over on the field, then shoot and score!!!

not sure if you can officially call this cheating... lol... but still can be in discussions!!!
 
I am Bane said:
funny you said that.... at Syracuse University Jim Brown was an amazing RB on the football team, but was also a top notch athlete on the Lacrosse team as well. now there is a rule that came about in Lacrosse called "thumbing". basically this rule can be said to be geared toward and strictly enforced due to Jim Brown.... he would tend to just place his thumb over the ball, run and plow everyone over on the field, then shoot and score!!!

not sure if you can officially call this cheating... lol... but still can be in discussions!!!
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it's not cheating unless there is a rule forbidding it. Just like there was not rule against stick'em, nor was there a rule against slapping the earholes on helmets...
 
Wildbill3 said:
it's not cheating unless there is a rule forbidding it. Just like there was not rule against stick'em, nor was there a rule against slapping the earholes on helmets...
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yeah agreed... i just like how a lot of these rules come about and such!!!

but going into that... i think i asked before and dont know if i really got a response..... but was Don Shula and them really cheating giving players these pain medicines? many players take them anyways... plus its your personal choice if to use them or not.

I even mentioned remembering players constantly playing through injuries and pain, remembering pictures of them with mangled hands and fingers..... also back in the days no true knowledge or awareness of concussions and such. different times!!!
 
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