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End of the Year "In Depth" Evaluation of Ted Ginn.

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Since I have some time on my hand, I have decided to review film on the Ted Ginn and write an in-depth look at his flaws and strengths.


Ted Ginn:

Ted Ginn displays blazing speed, but it takes him 5-7 yards before he can reach his top speed. His start/stop acceleration is lacking compared to the likes of Percy Harvin and even our own Davone Bess. Ginn plays with decent awareness, showing the ability to adjust to coverage without having to throttle down and taking false steps. He has developed some ability to catch the ball outside his frame, however, sometimes he uses his upper body to shield the catch in. He sometimes looks tight in his lower base and hips, failing to Lower his hips on deep out routes(13-15 yards). This leads to him rounding out some routes, such as the poor corner route he ran against Tampa Bay. This route was wide open, but he failed to start off on the right foot then Lower his hips at the 18 yard mark and cut towards the sideline in an angled route. As a result, he rounded his cut out at the 16 yard mark and was late getting to sideline. Henne threw it where Ginn was supposed to be, but from the failed route running, Ginn doesnt make it to the spot on time.

On his comeback routes, he sometimes fails to start of the line 100% then chop his feet and throw his head(in some offenses, they call this "Giving Head.") By failing to throw his head, the Defensive Back does not fly back when he makes his stop on the comeback or hitch, resulting in a broken up pass. However, this is rare, as he shows the tendency to run the comebacks,curls, option routes well. Along with this, he does come back to the ball when the ball is thrown and sometimes Catches it at the highest point, such as the curl route in the Titans game.

On Post routes, he runs them effectively, but sometimes fails to start of the LOS and run towards the Defensive Backs outside shoulder, causing the cornerback to turn his hips to the outside and giving Ginn the oppurtunity to give a head fake or even sink his hips at the 17-19 yard mark and make a cut towards the Goal Post while the DB's hips and body is facing the outside and he is already running to the inside. Hartline does the head fake and sinking his hips when the DB on his outside hip to perfection. Instead Ginn just runs straight foward hoping to beat them with his straight speed and makes a lazy cut towards the goal post. This does not occur a lot however, as he does run most of his routes well.

On the option routes, he finds the open hole in the zone, but sometimes tries to simply outrun the zone instead of finding the nice hole in it. Ginn has everything to become an elite reciever such as steve smith and santana moss, He needs to become crisp and a master of his route running and catching the ball at the highest point.

He has potential in this league, he just needs experience and needs to keep working at it with his route running, catching, body explosion movements, and vertical body work, etc.. His hips are fluid most of the time, sinking his hips and lowering his lower body on the cuts he needs to make. His chopping head and throwing head works, but he needs to mostly stop being lazy on some routes. He needs to look in the ball more for the drops to decrease and he has to give more moves of the LOS jam, such as a double move or letting the DB try to initiate the Jam, and work off the technique his DB is doing, with the angle he takes off the LOS most importantly and what foot he needs to set out in front before the snap in order to help dictate to himself where and which foot he needs to cut off of. He does run double routes EXTREMELY well. For instance, in the first NY Jets game, he ran it to PERFECTION. Got an inside release on Revis, sank his hips and planted his foot and bursted to a slant route. From there at the end of his slant he planted his right foot and BURSTED up field. It was beautiful and resulted in a TD catch. He did the exact same thing in the Texans game, which was negated by Polite's tripping penalty. The bottom line is that he is an EXCELLENT route runner. The posters who say he is a mediocre to bad route runner are just plain wrong. He needs to stop slacking on some routes, but his route running is above par. His hands are not a problem as we saw in his rookie and 2nd year. It was all mental, and I can relate as I had the same problem one year when I was a wideout. I caught 75 passes on year and 59 the next year with dropping 0 balls. I then dropped 7 the next year, but the next year and onwards I was back to my normal "0" drop self. Ginn needs to work on his blocking, but he really isn't known for his blocking skills. Ginn had an off-year, but is Extremely valuable. I do not see us trading him as he can FLOURISH when used correctly and has his head in the game. I like his future, no matter what happened this past season, as does Henning, Ireland, and Sparano.

On a side note: WOW is Henne's future bright. All I can say after watching the throws he made.
 
Interesting write-up.

I enjoyed reading about his technical ability as this is something that i wouldn't know what to look for. Its funny how people said he would need to work on his route running if he wanted to be great in this league. According to your assessment, he has done that and is very good at route running now.
So in your opinion (other than the obvious) what is he lacking in order to become a great WR?

Also, i always felt that his blocking was good considering his size. He's no H. Ward, but pretty solid all things considered.
 
Interesting write-up.

I enjoyed reading about his technical ability as this is something that i wouldn't know what to look for. Its funny how people said he would need to work on his route running if he wanted to be great in this league. According to your assessment, he has done that and is very good at route running now.
So in your opinion (other than the obvious) what is he lacking in order to become a great WR?

Also, i always felt that his blocking was good considering his size. He's no H. Ward, but pretty solid all things considered.

Well he needs to stop slacking on some routes. One instances would be the out route against the Jets. He barely gets a clean release and fails to really sink his hips at the 8-10 yard mark and explode to the sidelines. Revis or Strickland(Whoever was covering) almost picks the ball off because he was lazy on the route. He also needs to focus on catching the ball with his hands when he is coming across the field. However, he's shown he can catch with his hand before, so I am not worried about that. He needs to fight for YAC and stop falling down. But many receivers his size do that. If he could bulk up a little bit that would be great as well. He needs to become more CONSISTENT. Thats his biggest problem. Theres no area he has any glaring issues in or flaws in. His biggest flaw is his consistency. If he can stop being streaky and become consistent, he will be something of a Desean Jackson-Percy Harvin type player.
 
It's a real shame that he went through that whole drop streak because then he really had to work his way back towards getting more time and targets, which kept his catch total very low. By all accounts he is well liked and works hard so hopefully next year he will be back to normal hands wise and will have a nice little breakout.
 
Ginn will make a good to great no.3 option for a QB and he will strech the field and safeties can't cheat, but he cannot handle the pressure of no.1 his hands are unsure...
 
Ginn will make a good to great no.3 option for a QB and he will strech the field and safeties can't cheat, but he cannot handle the pressure of no.1 his hands are unsure...


His hands are fine. He had a stint where he was dropping passes. Most wideouts go through this. He didnt drop a single pass in his last 5-6 games and he barely dropped the ball ever in his 2 seasons prior to this past one.
 
I feel the kid is afraid of contact. I think he is afraid to take a hit over the middle of the field. At any given time on the field he is usually the fastest person out there. To be honest he reminds me of a smaller Moss and that is a luxury he can not afford due to his size he simply can not slack.

If he is going to succeed and produce Ginn has to find some desire, Hartline showed tremendous effort at times and I hope it continues. Maybe Hartline will rub off on Ginn and get him motivated. I mean a YAC of 1.3 yards is ridiculous compared to Hartline at 5.6 and Bess at 4.3 in 09.
 
His hands are fine. He had a stint where he was dropping passes. Most wideouts go through this. He didnt drop a single pass in his last 5-6 games and he barely dropped the ball ever in his 2 seasons prior to this past one.

Does this include extending his hands... to make a difficult catch over the middle...? Because that's what I was referring to.... I don't belive he has money hands... No.3 he will mature..., under the radar..., he won't be traded and yes Henne makes them all look better than they are at this point...
 
Ginn owns "Revis Island" so don't put up the for sale sign too soon

3 years and he is hasn't shown improvement.He has taken steps backwards.How much time does this guy get?:facepalm:

It's time to turn the Ted Ginn page and move on

Damn people on this forum are co-dependent to Ginn:crazy:
 
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