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Enough of the Tua bashing!!!

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Yep for all those bashing Tua here is a shot from the bad pick Tua threw.
Find an open receiver downfield your two top receivers are out with injuries and they are throwing to Chase Claypool a journey barely in league receiver who ran a horrible route.
If he runs to the space like Tyreek and Waddle does it a completion but he does not he goes to deep into the route before breaking it off.

Btw Tyreek drop a potential a TD pass 2 plays earlier McDaniel calls 3 running plays the hold second half...what is any QB going to do with this mess?
 
Yup, 100% accurate. Claypool is such a moron that he ran the route directly into the safety. Tua had no options, though. Other than a throw-away, since it was second down. Live to play another down.

But it was disgraceful to me that Tyreek begged out of the game. Talk about letting your QB down. A drop is one thing. It was bad, but it happens. To actually bail on your QB during that critical possession is unforgivable.
 
He could have thrown it away but the pocket was starting to collapse. I think he was rushing to get yardage since we were under a minute.
 
Tua is a system QB

After the Bills made half time adjustments the system was flawed.......and McDaniel did nothing to fix it.

Miami's flaws are not the QB they are with the coach who isn't flexible enough to amend the system accordingly.

Coach McDaniel has a lot to learn.
 
dreamblk said:
He could have thrown it away but the pocket was starting to collapse. I think he was rushing to get yardage since we were under a minute.
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In that picture there is no one within 3 yards of him and the blocks are still holding up. He had as much time to throw it away as he did to throw it to the Bills.
 
Archaeopteryx said:
I don’t think anyone is criticizing Tua based on just that one play alone, it’s his entire body of work in big games.

But maybe throw it here and move on to the next play? 3rd and 10 is better than forcing a bad pass.

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If he throws it there it's intentional grounding and 3rd and 20 and people are ripping him for being an idiot.
 
Springveldt said:
If he throws it there it's intentional grounding and 3rd and 20 and people are ripping him for being an idiot.
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That is correct, but he has the entire right side open where he can escape the pocket and then throw it away. Or maybe not, since he moves like Gimli the dwarf from ‘Lord of the Rings’.
 
The gods honest truth.

Tua has gotten better every year.

Tua stayed healthy.

Tua lead the entire NFL in passing.

Tua is our best option going forward. You have to see if he can take the next step. His closest player comparison is Drew Brees and his 1st team gave up on him.

Basicly what I'm saying is you have to hold on to Tua, give him a 2nd contract to see if he turns into Drew Brees.
 
This isn't to bash Tua...it's what film study is about anyway and McD and Tua I'm sure are going over this play 50 times themselves anyway...you live, you learn...

You see that receiver near the 30 crossing into the middle of the field? I believe it is Wilson.

Claypool will turn soon and sucks up the safety and corner down below giving that middle of the field receiver a window. He's covered but there's a window there in front.

No TOs but you can still stop the clock, worst case a drop, because Tua throws it in the short window space in front. I'm guessing bills didn't care about middle that's why it's there to waste clock time. But you had some time.

No good? Ok...

2nd option you have rb coming out and a wr moving that way too... if you fade it it towards sideline to the back of dbs head...Say the 33 yard line...either its caught or goes oob. Im not too worried about a pick there if my qb aims it right.

What you DONT DO is throw it to claypool when hes got corner on him under and the safety over top in position just baiting you and can INT it and even go pick 6 if lucky enough to break on it early.
 
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I think the whole Tua bashing is blown way out of proportion. Does he have to be smarter with how he forces things? Absolutely. However, his first interception was about as good as a Jake Bailey punt would’ve been. The second interception Claypool ran a terrible route, but Tua needs to understand that he doesn’t need to force that throw into tight coverage. For the most part I thought Tua was decisive and accurate with the football. There were a few throws that I’m sure he’d want back, but that’s with every quarterback. I thought the offensive line performed about as well as we could’ve asked, but the receivers just weren’t getting open and there were huge drops. We need to pray that Waddle is ready to go this week.
 
That is pretty good coverage by the Bills........really nowhere to throw this ball.

I thought Tua was throwing to a spot where Claypool should have been and he wasn't.......just an opinion, but at the time I though Claypool took that too deep.

However, unless you are sure, you throw that ball away.

On to Kansas City
 
MrChadRico said:
The gods honest truth.

Tua has gotten better every year.

Tua stayed healthy.

Tua lead the entire NFL in passing.

Tua is our best option going forward. You have to see if he can take the next step. His closest player comparison is Drew Brees and his 1st team gave up on him.

Basicly what I'm saying is you have to hold on to Tua, give him a 2nd contract to see if he turns into Drew Brees.
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Interestingly, in Brees’ case, it wasn’t until SD moved on from him after his 5th year that he really took off. His final 2 years in SD were very Tua like. Hopefully Tua turns out to be as good as Brees, but man, and I know there is a separate thread for this already, but that‘s a risky 2nd contract right now, depending on what they pay him. I agree that they almost have to do it, though.
 
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