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We are not "The worst team in the League" as some are suggesting. We aren't an embarrassment to the NFL. We aren't at rock bottom as a franchise and we surely look nothing like the 2007 Dolphins as another thread suggested. Last year we were a very poorly coached team. If you don't believe that we were a poorly coached team, just ask. There are tons of statistics that say otherwise along with plenty of game tape that doesn't lie. We were terrible at situational football. Now, it remains to be seen whether our new coach will be better or not. Its best to be optimistic in that regard and save judgement for during the season.

With that said, we overcame our coaching numerous times to show that we are a talented team (or that we had enough talent to overcome our coaching and the other team, for at least a portion of the game). We outplayed the NFL champion Giants through 3 quarters of football. We went toe to toe with the AFC champs in the first game before they took a 2 score lead in the fourth quarter. We had a 17-0 lead on those same AFC champs later in the year. We had a slow start with a new offensive system and a short offseason - understandable. The point is the players on this team are not as bad as you make them out to be on this board. When we peaked, we were well regarded by many media outlets. A few had us in their top 10, some said we were playing some of the best football in the league.

So far this offseason we have lost 2 key players - Kendall Langford. He will be replaced by Odrick and its really no loss. And of course, Brandon Marshall. Tough loss, but with the knowledge we have now, he probably would have missed a good chunk of the season anyway. Marshall was a huge reason we lost a few games last year anyway. I can't count the touchdowns he dropped. We got on Ted Ginn for dropping one on MNF vs the Colts and wanted him gone, but BMarsh drops td pass after td pass and we give him a pass. He's a physical specimen but there is no way I would consider him a "top 5" receiver as some of you on here proclaim. Here's a quick list of 5 better receivers: Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Roddy White, Greg Jennings. Not to mention guys like Dwayne Bowe, AJ Green, Dez Bryant. Point is.. He's good, but we didn't just get rid of some irreplaceable player.

As for us being "a joke of a team" for trying to get Peyton Manning. In the words of WV - Get Real! Half the league was interested, and he didn't come here, not a big deal. In fact, I'd say kudos to our front office for going very hard after the best QB option we've had available in a long time. As for Matt Flynn.. how can you hate on our front office for trying to upgrade or bring stability to the quarterback position. And yeah, maybe they are low balling him a little bit.. GOOD! We don't want to be the team that over pays for free agents (see the Bills.. Mario was not worth that contract). After the first week of free agency the deals get smaller. We're being smart here and some of you guys are criticizing. Is Matt Flynn better than Matt Moore? We don't know.. only Philbin knows. And maybe they are pretty similar and having two above average quarterbacks push each other in camp will help them both get better.

Lastly, I know we didn't get Eric Winston or Laurant Robinson, whom we were apparently interested in. But winning a free agent is also subject to the winners curse, you end up paying more than the talent is actually worth. Winston is a top 10 right tackle. He wanted paid like the best right tackle. No thanks, we can find a solid right tackle in the first 2 rounds.

I posted this long post because I hate seeing "the sky is falling." I hate when our own fans thing we are the most embarrassing team in the NFL. We're far from it. We have talent. If you want to get mad at the front office, wait until the offseason is over and their plan is in place.
 
We lost to the giants based on one play. Marshall's phantom OPI call. that was the most biased call I think i ever saw at a key moment in the game with such a key play being 3rd and long and that would have been first down and end of ballgame.
 
We wanted a new coach. We got one. Now let him do his thing before we start the "suck for somebody' campaign.
Last year we thought Ireland fizzled in free agency but he made the correct decision on Ortin and signed Bush and Burnett late.
Patience butter fly. Trust the new coach knows his stuff. If not he won't be here long anyways.
 
Great post. Everyone can speculate and blame this or that but we won't know for sure until September when the games are actually played.
 
We wanted a new coach. We got one. Now let him do his thing before we start the "suck for somebody' campaign.
Last year we thought Ireland fizzled in free agency but he made the correct decision on Ortin and signed Bush and Burnett late.
Patience butter fly. Trust the new coach knows his stuff. If not he won't be here long anyways.

Man i wasnt going to post in this thread. The "moral victories" argument got tired when we had losing records 3 years in a row. We had a moral victory in 2010 when we beat the Packers...and then went 6-10 the next season.

But anyways, i really had to point some things out. 1) Jeff Ireland did NOT make the correct decision on Orton. He wanted to trade, he made up an agreeable contract, he agreed on giving up draft picks...and Ross slapped him down.

In August, the Denver Broncos and Miami Dolphins were prepared to trade quarterback Kyle Orton and a fourth round draft pick. Before the deal was finalized however, Miami’s owner, Stephen Ross, declined to pay a three-year, $27 million contract extension to Orton that had already been agreed to, which blew up the deal, according to ESPN‘s Adam Schefter.

http://broncotalk.net/2011/10/25647...on-but-are-no-longer-intersted-in-kyle-orton/

2) We will have to wait until training camp for Joe Philbin to "do his thing". Remember, Jeff Ireland fought for and gained total control of this team. Its the reason why we lost out on Jeff Fisher(no loss in my opinion, but Ross wanted him). Everything that is happening until training camp is Jeff Ireland's show and so far its been thoroughly unimpressive. He has shown he cannot properly judge quarterbacks and he has also shown he cannot fix the offensive line. If we arent the "most embarrassing team in the league" we sure arent far from it.....and with the people in charge(actually in charge, Ross and Ireland) i have little faith that things will be changed anytime soon.
 
Finally I read a post that is written by a true, realistic fan!!! I totally agree with everything that has been stated in your post and truly believe that we are in for an exceptional season. Matt Moore is a good quarterback!!! I watched every game last year and considering the fact that he had to contend with idiotic play-calls and Brandon Marshalls' rants in the huddle, he performed admirably. Early on, the offensive line was atrocious and the defense wasn't much better but they figured it all out down the stretch.

The defense was a work in progress which was unexpected but they came around as well and we have the necessary pieces in place to contend one again with the leagues "elite" defenses for top honors. Reggie Bush proved he was indeed durable and could shoulder the heavier load while Daniel Thomas hit the rookie wall. Daniel Thomas will be a huge contributor this year and the fact that his fellow backfield mate Charles Clay did well gives us increased versatility.

I say we get Anderson signed...shore up the defensive line...then we can focus our attentions to the draft. I say we trade down with Cincinnati... get David DeCastro in the first round, pick up a receiver and stud TE in the second, a DE/LB in the third, a CB/Safety in the fourth, and use the fifth through the seventh rounds for depths.

Matt Moore is not the issue....5 games lost by 3 or less points assures me that we are closer than anyone on the outside really wants to admit!!!
 
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