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I am hoping that Ewers struggles in 2024 was due to the injuries he was playing with.

He was impressive in 2023 and was thought to be a first round prospect before the start of the 2024 season.
 
People are starting to soften up on Gruden. If Miami ends up in the HC market next offseason, I think Ross should suck it up and hire him. Yeah, there will be pushback but if Ross decides to grow a backbone and stand by his decision, all of that will eventually die down.

Interesting to contemplate, but I don't see it happening.
 
I am intrigued, but I can't help but wonder why he didn't get drafted until the 7th round. NFL front offices aren't infallible. They make mistakes, yet there has to be something they all see that they do not like. I heard he's a lot like Thompson in that he doesn't adjust once the ball is snapped. He just zeros in on a guy and forces it if he has to. If that is the case, I hope it is correctable.

The NFL FO's are a lot like most of our posters.
They see what they want to see and sometimes miss the blindingly obvious.
 
Not sure if this has been posted, but I came away thoroughly impressed with Ewers. Gruden throws a lot at him and then comes back later to different plays and protections and the guy just picked it up without hesitation. Great watch!


I love this. But look back at his work with Tannehill. Now I don’t hate Tannehill like many vocal people here did, but if you didn’t like Tannehill, take this with a grain of salt.
 
I am intrigued, but I can't help but wonder why he didn't get drafted until the 7th round. NFL front offices aren't infallible. They make mistakes, yet there has to be something they all see that they do not like. I heard he's a lot like Thompson in that he doesn't adjust once the ball is snapped. He just zeros in on a guy and forces it if he has to. If that is the case, I hope it is correctable.
Apparently this is a product of the offense he played in. Plays were successfully designed where that first read was readily open. Talent and play design/ calling by Sark could have been an influence. Ewers was spoiled having this 1st read option open so often... I'm not concerned with his mental game and adapting to the NFL. He seems like a bright kid more so than any other qb we've had since Fitz. We shall see but I too have a good feeling with Ewers!
 
Exactly. He was not aggressive on so many throws where he checked down when someone was open deeper downfield. Where Tua gets too aggressive at times, Ewers is just the opposite.
Thanks for sharing but we'll see about that... I'm not buying this narrative.
 
Thanks for sharing but we'll see about that... I'm not buying this narrative.
Watch the Kurt Warner film breakdown and listen to what Chris Simms said about him. It’s not just a narrative. It is what it is. There is a reason why the kid almost didn’t get drafted and a bunch of QBs in a bad QB class were drafted ahead of him.
 
Completely disagree. He absolutely goes through progressions and that is not even debatable. His issue has been that he sometimes goes through his progressions too fast and takes the easy money throw instead of pushing the ball to the big play, or just waiting a bit longer for a window to open. That can actually be what he is coached to do. Kurt Warner did a great write up on him showing examples of this.

The one thing he absolutely isn't, is a one read QB.

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Going through your progressions too fast or ignoring your progression to take the checkdown is the very definition of not going through your progressions well.

When Ewers is at his peak it’s running the RPO and throwing to his first read, and there’s nothing wrong with that because it’s exactly what Mike McDaniel runs here with Tua.

They both thrive in this system of the RPO first read get the ball out in 2and a half seconds, both skill sets are exploited in this style.

The question is can you win a championship predominantly going to your first read.

The similarities are uncanny between sarkesian and mcdaniels system and how both Qbs can operate it when it’s humming.ball handling, quick release and accuracy at their supertraits, like I said uncanny.



This is one big game that that ewers won against Alabama, I would say 95% of his throws are to his first read, and sometimes his receivers dropped the ball.

They won the game by his touch, quickness and accuracy on that first read philosophy

So I’m not sure who you are quoting or believing but I disagree with both if you, his issues begin after the first read if you are looking at a body of work.

I will also say this, I’m not sure the whole progression thing matters too much anymore, when your getting the ball out faster than anyone in the game well that’s your game.m, unless you have the skill to escape and play make like Mahomes Allen or Jackson this is the world you live in
 
Going through your progressions too fast or ignoring your progression to take the checkdown is the very definition of not going through your progressions well.

When Ewers is at his peak it’s running the RPO and throwing to his first read, and there’s nothing wrong with that because it’s exactly what Mike McDaniel runs here with Tua.

They both thrive in this system of the RPO first read get the ball out in 2and a half seconds, both skill sets are exploited in this style.

The question is can you win a championship predominantly going to your first read.

The similarities are uncanny between sarkesian and mcdaniels system and how both Qbs can operate it when it’s humming.ball handling, quick release and accuracy at their supertraits, like I said uncanny.



This is one big game that that ewers won against Alabama, I would say 95% of his throws are to his first read, and sometimes his receivers dropped the ball.

They won the game by his touch, quickness and accuracy on that first read philosophy

So I’m not sure who you are quoting or believing but I disagree with both if you, his issues begin after the first read if you are looking at a body of work.

I will also say this, I’m not sure the whole progression thing matters too much anymore, when your getting the ball out faster than anyone in the game well that’s your game.m, unless you have the skill to escape and play make like Mahomes Allen or Jackson this is the world you live in

There is absolutely a difference between someone who goes through his progressions too fast and a one read thrower as you initially stated. The kid has and for a very long time been a progression thrower, not a one read thrower. What we don't know and what has been eluded to in several professional break downs is if he is doing that because he is coached to do that, or because he is too antsy.
 
So I'm wondering what happened to ewers. In the part at the end where he passes the ball, gruden even mentioned the pop when ewers threw the ball. But in a bunch of ewers games especially last year, he had passes flutter and look weak armed. But reports of his ability in the beginning of his playing time with Texas, he apparently could make all the throws and throw in tight windows, It seems like his arm impressed gruden here which seemed like a somewhat recent filming or taping I think. I do think a lot of it might be injury with him playing through it but makes me wonder if he did have a good arm, did his accumulative injuries in college, cause an effect on his arm strength to weaken like Tua's bad hip injury did to Tua's passing velocity? It came back some, but I don't think Tua's arm is like it was in college and will ever be the same.
Hey perhaps we got the next Tom Brady!!!
 
People are starting to soften up on Gruden. If Miami ends up in the HC market next offseason, I think Ross should suck it up and hire him. Yeah, there will be pushback but if Ross decides to grow a backbone and stand by his decision, all of that will eventually die down.
Always liked Gruden. If he does come back, it will be interesting to see who his OC + DC are.
 
Hope springs eternal on FH!

I just don't understand what determines when hope is deserved. I mean some of you guys are already fantasizing Ewers is coming in and knocking Tua out of the QB1 spot. I mean the guy hasn't even participated in an OTA yet. Oh, but he could be the next Brady or Purdy. Maybe he could, but isn't it more likely he ends up as a career backup like the hundreds of other QBs taken in the 7th round over the past 25 years?

The odds are better that Tua plays a full season like he did in '23 (not likely, but better odds than Ewers knocking Tua out of the QB1 spot).
 
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