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http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/05/dolphins-goodreturn-tedginninvestment170507.html On Jan. 2, 2005, Wes Welker returned a kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown against the Baltimore Ravens . That was the team's first kick return for a TD since 1989. The last punt return for a score came in 2000, when Jeff Ogden scored on an 81-yard scamper against the Green Bay Packers , the first since 1993. That makes four touchdown returns in 17 years. To be fair, Welker was an adequate punt return man (he averaged 9.2 yards per runback in 2006), but with his departure to New England, Miami had to find a replacement this offseason.

Enter rookie Ted Ginn Jr., the ninth overall pick in last month's draft, a former Ohio State star.

Ginn set a Big Ten record with eight touchdown returns (six punt return TDs and two kickoff scores) in only three seasons with the Buckeyes. He capped off his special teams heroics for OSU by returning the opening kickoff for a touchdown in the National Championship game against Florida; unfortunately, he injured his foot shortly after
 
Thanks for the late-breaking update. I was wondering when he hurt his foot?
 
zonk4ever said:
Thanks for the late-breaking update. I was wondering when he hurt his foot?
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Ouch
 
phinsfan1221 said:
http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/05/dolphins-goodreturn-tedginninvestment170507.html On Jan. 2, 2005, Wes Welker returned a kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown against the Baltimore Ravens . That was the team's first kick return for a TD since 1989. The last punt return for a score came in 2000, when Jeff Ogden scored on an 81-yard scamper against the Green Bay Packers , the first since 1993. That makes four touchdown returns in 17 years. To be fair, Welker was an adequate punt return man (he averaged 9.2 yards per runback in 2006), but with his departure to New England, Miami had to find a replacement this offseason.

Enter rookie Ted Ginn Jr., the ninth overall pick in last month's draft, a former Ohio State star.

Ginn set a Big Ten record with eight touchdown returns (six punt return TDs and two kickoff scores) in only three seasons with the Buckeyes. He capped off his special teams heroics for OSU by returning the opening kickoff for a touchdown in the National Championship game against Florida; unfortunately, he injured his foot shortly after
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The first part of the post is an eye opener. These stats are positively anaemic. Welker could make pepole miss but never had the break away speed. Ginn can make people miss and has the after burners.
 
I think that averges out to be a td return every 4.5 games or so? If he can even come close to that in the NFL he will give us 3 tds or so a year just on special teams. Wouldn't that be nice?
 
zonk4ever said:
Thanks for the late-breaking update. I was wondering when he hurt his foot?
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Your focusing on the wrong part of what he is saying...The point of the thread is that our return game has been garbage for years....yes we all loved wes welker, but he will never be anything besides mediocer....Ginn will help us improve in that aspet of the game....


Also interesting to note that Cam drafted some players in the later rounds that he thinks can contribute on special teams in terms of blocking...so the focus obviously is taking better advantage of the "5th down"...While at the same time getting a guy who can mix it up on offense and take some of the double teams off of Chambers to really open up the passing game
 
WISfinfan13 said:
Your focusing on the wrong part of what he is saying...The point of the thread is that our return game has been garbage for years....yes we all loved wes welker, but he will never be anything besides mediocer....Ginn will help us improve in that aspet of the game....


Also interesting to note that Cam drafted some players in the later rounds that he thinks can contribute on special teams in terms of blocking...so the focus obviously is taking better advantage of the "5th down"...While at the same time getting a guy who can mix it up on offense and take some of the double teams off of Chambers to really open up the passing game
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I like it, you have a special returner like Ginn, you put a mean bunch of blockers out there for him and turn the return game into something very dangerous.

We will have teams kicking out of bounds to avoid the return.
 
JT#1 said:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9664/injury300kh1.jpgOuch
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Maan. I bet that guy from Ohio State #8 felt like a complete idiot and wanted to climb into a hole in the ground after doing that to Ted at the National Championship game. Ted could have been a big difference maker in that game. That #8 guy was running like a madman down the field at full speed to congratulate Ted for the run back TD and he slipped on the turf or something. Why the hell he tackled him, I have no idea. :confused:

I can't imagine what he could say to Ted after he did that to him. Oops, sorry Ted ... I just kind of freaked out. I bet that #8 guy was relieved that Ted still got drafted high and it looks like Ted will recover from the injury okay. :D

I sometimes cringe during these TD celebrations. Some of these big Olinemen could really hurt those smaller guys the way they jump on them and smack them in the head when they're not looking. The Dolphins coaches need to specifically tell them to be cool with the TD celebrations. Ted is kind of like an exotic sports car like a Ferrari. You need to be careful with high speed precision machinery like that. :(
 
That #8 guy was Roy Hall, and he was drafted by Indy I think. Those Indy fans better hope he's not around Peyton, Marvin, or Reggie when they score.......
 
Vertical Limit said:
Robert Mecheam.
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Looks like Meachem has some of the same weaknesses that all the other rookie receivers coming into the NFL have. Some of the same exact things they say about Ted Ginn. Maybe that's why he was drafted 27th overall.

"Weaknesses: Not a great route runner...Drops some balls due to a lack of concentration...Not a great blocker...Does not get off the line well versus the jam...Is not very tough or physical...Will not work across the middle much...Needs some technique work and still has to master the nuances of his craft...Has some minor durability concerns."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Meachem

He does have good size and speed. 4.39 40 is good. That's not Ted Ginn world class speed though. Ted probably runs about a 4.27 electronically timed 40 like you'd see at the combine. He has run as low as 4.21 unofficially. If Ted can gain 10-15 pounds and keep all that speed he should be fine in the NFL. Just look at guys like Marvin Harrison, Santana Moss and Steve Smith. Ted and Chris Chambers are both 5'11". Chambers has done pretty well lately with that Pro Bowl in 2005.

Ted's momma needs to feed that boy and he needs to workout hard in the weight room to add muscle. He's only 22. He can probably add some weight to his frame. He better take his receiver training very seriously. He needs to work hard on that route running, ball catching focus, etc. His father is a well respected HS football coach. Ted will get plenty of help getting better. He'll get a lot of help from our receivers coach ... and Chris Chambers who he's known for years since they're both from the same high school in Cleveland.

I have no doubt that Cam will find creative ways of using him this year. He'll be Cam's secret weapon at first and then probably gradually ease him into being a starter later in the season. Also, unlike Meachem, Ginn will be contributing on day one as a kick returner at least ... one of the best in the NFL right away probably ... right behind Devin Hester.
 
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