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Fact Not Opinion - The Dolphins And Grier Had A Terrible 2024 Offseason

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Normally I am open to other opinions. One perspective that I have little tolerance for is the notion that the Dolphins had a good offseason last year. And I keep hearing that. It is just wrong. This is fact.

The team badly regressed this year. The regression was worse than the relative records suggest. Our schedule this year was a joke. Most of our wins were against teams vying for the first pick in this years draft. We actually lost to the Titans, and probably should have lost to the Jags (Etienne fumble), the Pats (toe tap endzone), and the first Jets game (kickoff short of end zone and returned). We were not that far away from a 5 win season or worse, because the team might have quit if some of those earlier games didn't go our way.

The offseason includes more than just the best of the acquisitions. This is the mistake I think people are making. The offseason includes the entirety of acquisitions made, draft and FA, both good and bad. The offseason includes players that we let go. The offseason also includes contracts that are signed.

The offseason included having no capable backup QB, and included rolling out with two awful guards.

The offseason is a mosaic of moves.

Were some of the moves and draft picks good? Sure. Although without going into detail, most of them probably not as good as a lot of people want to believe.

Bottom line, the team not only got substantially worse Y-Y, and we gravely impaired our future position with the asinine contracts that were handed out. The front office was delusional enough to go all in on what was quite frankly a mediocre at best team. We got worse, and now we have a mess that will take years to undo given all the bad contracts that were handed out.

Anyone telling me we had a good 2024 offseason is nuts with their head out the window!
 
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Where are the posts that say “everything is great all the time”?

You’re making this up.

95% of the posts here are “we suck”, “fire Grier”, “fire McDaniel” and “I was right … I told you!!!”

Maybe 5% are people who are still interested in rooting for the team, discussing what we can actually do to improve (given the fact that both Grier and McDaniel are here for at least the start of the season) and trying to look forward to the draft and free agency.

Be whatever sort of fan you want but it’s a mistake to equate being the most aggrieved with caring the most or knowing the most ball.
 
phinsforlife said:
Normally I am open to other opinions. One perspective that I have little tolerance for is the notion that the Dolphins had a good offseason last year. And I keep hearing that. It is just wrong. This is fact.

The team badly regressed this year. The regression was worse than the relative records suggest. Our schedule this year was a joke. Most of our wins were against teams vying for the first pick in this years draft. We actually lost to the Titans, and probably should have lost to the Jags (Etienne fumble), the Pats (toe tap endzone), and the first Jets game (kickoff short of end zone and returned). We were not that far away from a 5 win season or worse, because the team might have quit if some of those earlier games didn't go our way.

The offseason includes more than just the best of the acquisitions. This is the mistake I think people are making. The offseason includes the entirety of acquisitions made, draft and FA, both good and bad. The offseason includes players that we let go. The offseason also includes contracts that are signed.

The offseason included having no capable backup QB, and included rolling out with two awful guards.

The offseason is a mosaic of moves.

Were some of the moves and draft picks good? Sure. Although without going into detail, most of them probably not as good as a lot of people want to believe.

Bottom line, the team not only got substantially worse Y-Y, and we gravely impaired our future position with the asinine contracts that were handed out. The front office was delusional enough to go all in on what was quite frankly a mediocre at best team. We got worse, and now we have a mess that will take years to undo given all the bad contracts that were handed out.

Anyone telling me we had a good 2024 offseason is nuts with their head out the window!
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This is an opinion, not a fact.

Constantly saying they got worse (due to record) while glossing over the starting QB missed 6 games. This team probably wins 11 games if Tua doesn't dive head first into Hamlin and learns how to slide and that's with the worst starting guard tandem in the league and a backup RT for 9 games.
 
Opinion.

Was mostly neutral.

We were cash strapped with not a ton of picks but still landed Jonnu, Brooks and Fuller who all have a future with the team.

Jonnu might be the best tight end in dolphins history and Brooks is the best linebacker Miami has had in atleast a decade.

Chop looks like a future pro bowler, Paul looked solid and Washington looks like a steal. Liked what I saw in wright as well, have no idea why McDaniel went away from him towards the end of the year.

Defense vastly improved and it’s an 11-12 win team if Tua doesn’t get hurt.

Miami needs to replicate that offseason and draft hits but apply them to the trenches this offseason.
 
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This is an opinion, not a fact.

Constantly saying they got worse (due to record) while glossing over the starting QB missed 6 games. This team probably wins 11 games if Tua doesn't dive head first into Hamlin and learns how to slide and that's with the worst starting guard tandem in the league and a backup RT for 9 games.
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Yeah! And still loose first round against any real contender. Even with Tua we are two levels below real powers like the Chiefs, Ravens and Bills. Next year at least the Broncos might be that good cause they actually have a GM and a coach that can put them on that level. We dont.
 
Back up QB-ruined the season
Guards-ruined the run game
Crossman-what can I say, they must be happy with a jun varsity coach here last few years, always terrible
Bailey- lower on list but where was the competition, he sucks

They did some good but these glaring fails was a kick in the nuts to the other players and fans. It also cost us the season once again.
 
Here is a Fact:

Last year Dolphins defense was worse than this year Eagles defense. Fanggio was the DC of both. The big difference is the talent level on both teams.

Campbell isnt a genious, he is amazing at getting the most from his very talented players. Even when injuries hit he can be competitive because the depth of that team is amazing.

Chiefs and Bills have top level talent all over the place. You want to buy the argument of their super hero QBs being the reason is ok, but it is a Fact that their teams can win with low scoring games when their QB looks bad. Their trenches are top 5. Our OL is bottom 10. Last time I checked it was Grier the one who brings talent to the team and yes he has failed big time. He has put every imaginable excuse, but the Fact is that injuries are more frecuent with injury prone players, and he has aquired a plenty. You cant find good depth all over the team when you are paying lots of money and giving draft picks to aquire the few and real difference makers on your team. Why this happens? Here is a Fact. Succesful teams have a mix of high paid top veterans and lots Of young cheap solid players and a few young top players at their position. Thats the way they can contend with talent all over the team and a salary cap. Our team lacks the young talent needed cause Grier cant draft. We dont have a single top 5 Player at his position drafted by Grier. The only one we had was Wilkins and let him go because his position was not a premium one. Remember when Jimmy Johnson landed Surtain, Madison, Thomas, Taylor, Bowens and Vincent? Those players were top 5 at their position and the reason we were competitive with a very bad offense. Thats a guy that can draft. Put that kind Of guy with a coach and a QB that can compete and you have a contender. Grier is the biggest part Of the problem we have and thats my opinion. Our depth and OL sucks and thats a Fact!
 
We lost to the Cardinals by 1 on a last second FG. We lost to the Bills on a miracle 64 yard FG when the game probably would have went to OT. We had 4th quarter momentum that game, so we MIGHT have won.

I agree the 2024 offseason was not great. Extending Tua, Hill and Ramsey before the season was not a good idea. But you could argue we were just as close to 10 wins as we were to 5 wins.
 
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