Fanspeak On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator

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  1. Lovethefish

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    I would be hard pressed to take WR on this team given the holes all over the field. Unless the kid is Julio Jones or Moss without the baggage - give me DE Chubb Landry Clemson kid or Stud OL or shutdown CB..
     
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    Nelson & Price solve the teams biggest issue. Sign me up.
     
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    Def low on Evans, and 2nd/3rd is where I have him. I agree with your take on Hill. He looks like a well-rounded stud - can do it all. We'll see if he can keep "clean". At this point in the process, the rankings are everywhere. It'll be interesting to see who remains underrated. One of the boards had Lotulelei in the 1st, and I'm not sure he'll even be drafted. He's not good.
     
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    I feel the same, but I do think Sutton is that rare WR worth a top-10 pick, and Chubb was not on the board. Chubb and Sutton are the only players I have as virtual locks for the top 10. After them, all the prospects have significant questions or ceilings that preclude them from that range.

    While I don't like going WR early, this would be the draft to do it. With the info we have, it looks like the weakest top 10 since 2013, so I don't feel like I'm passing on All Pro DE's, CB's, or Safeties. I like the depth of this class better than 2013.
     
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    10: R1P10
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    42: R2P10
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    74: R3P10
    CB HOLTON HILL
    TEXAS

    112: R4P10
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    CB ISAIAH OLIVER
    COLORADO

    189: R6P10
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    231: R7P9
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    232: R7P10
    G ISAIAH WYNN
    GEORGIA
     
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    10: R1P10

    EDGE SAM HUBBARD
    OHIO STATE
    42: R2P10

    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE
    74: R3P10

    TE TROY FUMAGALLI
    WISCONSIN
    112: R4P10

    RB MARK WALTON
    MIAMI
    132: R4P30

    LB DAVIN BELLAMY
    GEORGIA
    189: R6P10

    QB NICK FITZGERALD
    MISSISSIPPI STATE
    231: R7P9

    CB GRANT HALEY
    PENN STATE
    232: R7P10

    WR JONATHAN GILES
    TEXAS TECH
     
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    10: R1P10
    EDGE ARDEN KEY
    LSU
    42: R2P10
    C BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE
    74: R3P10
    G ROSS PIERSCHBACHER
    ALABAMA
    112: R4P10
    TE MIKE GESICKI
    PENN STATE
    132: R4P30
    CB BRANDON FACYSON
    VIRGINIA TECH
    189: R6P10
    RB KALEN BALLAGE
    ARIZONA STATE
    231: R7P9
    FB KHALID HILL
    MICHIGAN
    232: R7P10
    S NICK WASHINGTON
    FLORIDA
     
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    10: R1P10
    WR COURTLAND SUTTON
    SMU

    42: R2P10
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    74: R3P10
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    112: R4P10
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    G BRADEN SMITH
    AUBURN

    189: R6P10
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    231: R7P9
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    232: R7P10
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA
     
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    Miami has to get an athletic, speedy linebacker somewhere. Maybe not round one, but most likely early. Who do you see as best fits? Is Malik Jefferson worthy of a top 15 pick and is he someone who can push that needle for the Dolphins defense?

    I think either LB or TE in round 2. Round 1 could go so many ways, including potentially a quarterback. Miami might end up in the Minkah Fitzpatrick range as well.
     
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    Holy hell, if Josh Allen fell to us in round 4 I’d be stoked. I like the looks of this one, don’t see it happening, but this ones my fave.
     
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    12: R1P12
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    44: R2P12
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    76: R3P12
    EDGE DORANCE ARMSTRONG JR.
    KANSAS

    114: R4P12
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    134: R4P32
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    191: R6P12
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    229: R7P7
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    234: R7P12
    EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT
    CLEMSON
     
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    I didn’t realize Miami still had 2 7th round picks, I thought they lost out on the Jacksonville pick in the retirement/non retirement debacle.
     
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    Yes they did but we got another one from trading back in last years draft, forgot who with though
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    I think you have a fair point about needing some to keep irons in the fire at linebacker. Especially if they're going to keep their current LB and DL usage in place going forward, they need to keep sifting until they find an elite player and a borderline elite player.
     
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    As talented as Hilton Hill is, he scares the bejesus outta me. Those 3 suspensions are not good and don’t say much about his ability to resist. Miami doesn’t need the “Cheech and Chong” show in South Beach.
     
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    12: R1P12

    OT MIKE MCGLINCHEY
    NOTRE DAME
    44: R2P12

    EDGE TYQUAN LEWIS
    OHIO STATE
    76: R3P12

    TE MARK ANDREWS
    OKLAHOMA
    114: R4P12

    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA
    134: R4P32

    LB AZEEM VICTOR
    WASHINGTON
    191: R6P12

    QB LUKE FALK
    WASHINGTON STATE
    229: R7P7

    WR MICHAEL GALLUP
    COLORADO STATE
    234: R7P12

    CB GRANT HALEY
    PENN STATE
     
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    S DERWIN JAMES
    FLORIDA STATE

    44: R2P12
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

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    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    114: R4P12
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    134: R4P32
    OT CHUKWUMA OKORAFOR
    WESTERN MICHIGAN

    191: R6P12
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    229: R7P7
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    234: R7P12
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA
     
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    EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB
    NC STATE

    44: R2P12
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    76: R3P12
    LB AZEEM VICTOR
    WASHINGTON

    114: R4P12
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    134: R4P32
    CB TONY BROWN
    ALABAMA

    191: R6P12
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    S DAKOTA ST

    229: R7P7
    DL DAYLON MACK
    TEXAS A&M

    234: R7P12
    LB TRAVIN HOWARD
    TCU
     
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    I don't know how the board fell the way it did but this would be a dream. Also didn't know we had a second 4th.

    1. Christian Wilkins DL
    2. Billy Price OG
    3. Mark Andrews TE
    4. Carlton Davis CB
    4, Skai Moore LB
    6. Jaylen Samuels Go-Go-Gadget Do Anything
    7. Raashan Evans LB
    7. Michael Gallup WR

    Wanted to add some size at DE but the board kept falling on players that I couldn't pass up, especially Evans and Gallup in the 7th.
     
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    I can get on board with this one.
     
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    And this one as well.
     
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    I can't get on board with any of those mocks that have Quenton Nelson at the top because A) I really, really don't think Miami's current set of decision-makers would do that based on what I know to be their preferences/priorities, and B) I'm not even sure Nelson (good as he is, I do appreciate him) is the best guard prospect (I have Will Hernandez same caliber).
     
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    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

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    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    76: R3P12
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    114: R4P12
    EDGE DORANCE ARMSTRONG JR.
    KANSAS

    134: R4P32
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    191: R6P12
    EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT
    CLEMSON

    229: R7P7
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    234: R7P12
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
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    14: R1P14
    G QUENTON NELSON
    NOTRE DAME

    46: R2P14
    G BILLY PRICE
    OHIO STATE

    78: R3P14
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    116: R4P14
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    192: R6P14
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA

    226: R7P7
    LB TEGRAY SCALES
    INDIANA

    233: R7P14
    EDGE CECE JEFFERSON
    FLORIDA
     
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    overkill little?
     
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    im hating all draft boards. i think this wont work well until after the combine.
     
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    What I've found and @j-off-her-doll pointed out to me. You need to change the difficulty or your gonna get a ton of talent below value
     
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    Nope, I would have added an OT ideally. Fix the problems and move on, interior OL and LB. I think that Stephone Anthony might contribute next year and McMillan is coming back from the ACL, but Jarrad Davis or TJ Watt would have been might good picks last year imo. Also a TE like Goedert would be good, Eric Saubert fit the bill last year as well.
     
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    RB SAQUON BARKLEY
    PENN STATE

    46: R2P14
    LB MALIK JEFFERSON
    TEXAS

    78: R3P14
    G WILL HERNANDEZ
    UTEP

    116: R4P14
    QB JOSH ALLEN
    WYOMING

    132: R4P30
    RB BO SCARBROUGH
    ALABAMA

    192: R6P14
    TE DALLAS GOEDERT
    SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

    226: R7P7
    EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT
    CLEMSON

    233: R7P14
    LB RASHAAN EVANS
    ALABAMA
     
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    I've noticed they have added some other "big boards". Is NFL Draft Scout still the most accurate?
     
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    Beats me, but the one that had Saquon Barkley lasting until #14 can't be all that accurate.
     
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    R1 P13 - Derwin James / S / Florida St.

    R2 P13 - Dallas Goedert / TE / S. Dakota St.

    R3 P13 - Will Hernandez / OG / UTEP

    R4 P13 - Marcus Davenport / DE / UTSA

    R4 P30 - Holton Hill / CB / Texas

    R6 P13 - Riley Ferguson / QB / Memphis

    R7 P6 - Isaiah Wynn / OG / Georgia

    R7 P13 - Mike McCray / LB / Michigan





    I'm not used to fooling around with these things at all. Set the difficulty as high as it can go. If I was really able to draft these players where I got em...I'd be pretty happy.

    I'm looking at RB's and other positions to sign as UDFA's that would've been on my draft board. Ridiculous.
     
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    I use first-pick because trades make it more fun. I will say that I traded the future away because it is a game and I wanted another 1st round pick. I also traded back several times in the 1st to gather more 2nd round picks.

    Round 1 Pick 11 (ARI): Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson (B+)
    Round 1 Pick 18 (BALT): Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 14: Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 16 (G.B.): Mason Cole, C/OT, Michigan (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 18 (BALT): Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas (A)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Jaylen Samuels, FB, North Carolina State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 30: Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 14: Riley Ferguson, QB, Memphis (B)
    Round 7 Pick 7: Jacob Pugh, OLB, Florida State (C)
    Round 7 Pick 14: D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland (A+)
     
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    I'm surprised you didn't take advantage of Rashaan Evans being conveniently rated in the 7th round. If you used the Fanspeak board, that is.

    I honestly have no idea what the "difficult" algorithm is compared to the normal one, or what that means.
     
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    I have done this exercise before but let's take the Fanspeak rankings and create a list of players of interest within certain ranges.

    As a test case, we'll take the #16 draft order in each round, using the 2017 distribution of compensatory picks, and we'll say that any player ranked within 20% of Rich Hill's chart value of the #16 pick in the round is "within range".

    These are the players at each stage that would go on my short list for being picked. I've bolded the values that I often find too compelling to pass up:

    Mid-1st (Rankings #010-040): WR Christian Kirk, OG Billy Price, DT Vita Vea, LB Roquon Smith, CB Tarvarus McFadden, CB Denzel Ward, CB Jaire Alexander, CB Josh Jackson, S Derwin James, S Ronnie Harrison

    Mid-2nd (Rankings #041-070)
    : RB Royce Freeman, RB Rashaad Penny, TE Mark Andrews, OT Orlando Brown, OG Isaiah Wynn, DE Marcus Davenport, LB Malik Jefferson

    Mid-3rd (Rankings #071-112)
    : RB Sony Michel, RB Bo Scarborough, WR Simmie Cobbs, TE Hayden Hurst, TE Mike Gesicki, OG Will Hernandez, DE Clelin Ferrell, DE Dorance Armstrong, CB Holton Hill, CB Isaiah Oliver, S Damon Webb

    Mid-4th (Rankings #113-150)
    : QB Josh Allen, RB Mark Walton, WR Jester Weah, WR Anthony Miller, TE Ian Thomas, OT Timon Parris, OC Frank Ragnow, CB Carlton Davis

    Mid-5th (Rankings #151-190)
    : QB Clayton Thorson, RB Kerryon Johnson, TE Adam Breneman, LB Josey Jewell, LB Matthew Thomas, LB Skai Moore, CB Deatrick Nichols

    Mid-6th (Rankings #191-224)
    : QB Ryan Finley, RB Kalen Ballage, RB Jaylen Samuels, TE Dallas Goedert, OG Braden Smith, DE Lorenzo Carter, DE Austin Bryant

    Mid-7th (Rankings #225-Plus)
    : QB Riley Ferguson, RB Jarvion Franklin, WR Michael Gallup, WR Allen Lazard, TE Jeb Blazevich, OG Larry Allen Jr., DE Jalyn Holmes, DE Justin Lawler, LB Dorian O'Daniel, LB Rashaan Evans, LB Keishawn Bierria, CB Rashard Fant
     
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    I used Matt Miller's big board. I just figured it was probably the closest thing to how I've had this class graded. Rashaan Evans came off the board in the 1st round.
     
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    I haven't looked at his yet. The only board I had come across that generally didn't have cartoon-ish value plays was the NFL Draft Scout board, but it hasn't been updated in a bit. The NFLDS board has some oversights but it's the one that consistently made me feel the least convinced that I could pull in like five or six first rounders.

    EDIT: You're right. Miller's is not particularly easy.

    R1: DE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
    R2: TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
    R3: OC Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
    R4: DE Marcus Davenport, UTSA
    R4: RB Royce Freeman, Oregon
    R6: OG Timon Parris, Stony Brook
    R7: FB Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
    R7: WR Jaleel Scott, New Mexico State

    Was gutted that I missed out on Will Hernandez in the 3rd round. The most ridiculous picks in there seem to be Marcus Davenport and Jaleel Scott. The only way Davenport comes close to the 4th round is if he runs like a 5.0 at the Combine, and that itself seems an impossibility based on the speed he shows on tape. I don't see any way Jaleel Scott comes close to the 7th round, either.
     
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    R1 - EDGE HAROLD LANDRY BC
    R2 - C MASON COLE, Michigan
    R3 - LB OREN BURKS, Vanderbilt
    R4 - QB JOSH ALLEN, Wyoming
    R4 - CB QUENTON MEEKS, Stanford
    R6 - DL DA'SHAWN HAND, Alabama
    R7 - LB DORIAN O'DANIEL, Clemson
    R7 - EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT, Clemson
     
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    R1 - G QUENTON NELSON, Notre Dame
    R2 - C MASON COLE, Michigan
    R3 - TE MARK ANDREWS, Oklahoma
    R4 - EDGE DORANCE ARMSTRONG JR., Kansas
    R4 - QB LUKE FALK, Washington State
    R6 - LB T.J. EDWARDS, Wisconsin
    R7 - LB KENNY YOUNG,UCLA
    R7 - CB KEVIN TOLIVER, LSU

    This is addictive. I'm going to try the Millen one next
     
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