Favre update

[Marino420TD]

For what it's worth (translation: playoffs slipping away, what else can we talk about)...

Favre has 15 TD passes this year in 12 games, giving him 411. He needs 9 more to tie Marino and 10 to pass. In other words, he needs to average >2 TD's/game for the rest of the season to get to Marino's record (he's only averaging a bit over 1 TD /game so far).

It's looking like he will need to come back next year, if he is going to reach Dan.

BTW, Favre already has 267 INT's, to Dan's 252. The record is 277.

Using this year's YTD TD/INT avg/game (1.25/0.92), he will hit the TD record (421) in game 4 next year. He will hit the INT record (278) in game 8 next year.

Using his career TD/INT avg/game (1.73/1.13), he will hit the TD record (421) in game 2 next year. He will hit the INT record (278) in game 6 next year.

I'm guessing he will retire after game 4 or 5 next year. :D

 

[ckparrothead]

If I were the Packers I would tell him to retire. The team really needs to move on and find out what Aaron Rodgers has for them.

At this point, if Favre is delaying retirement just to get the records, it cheapens the records in my eyes...because he's hurting his team to get them.

 

[DolfanCole]

If I were the Packers I would tell him to retire. The team really needs to move on and find out what Aaron Rodgers has for them.

At this point, if Favre is delaying retirement just to get the records, it cheapens the records in my eyes...because he's hurting his team to get them.

Maybe they've seen what Rodgers has and they don't like it. I know from what I've seen, Rodgers hasn't looked to be more than a backup. Maybe much of that is due to their OL, I haven't paid that much attention to it to really pinpoint the problems. And with breaking his foot, they won't be able to see him again this year. I would not be surprised at all to see them draft a QB pretty high next year.

 

[Gardenhead]

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about this the other day.

He could still get the record. Here's the GB remaining sked:

@49ers
DETROIT
MINN
@Bears

3 of 4 of those defenses suck.

 

[ckparrothead]

Maybe they've seen what Rodgers has and they don't like it. I know from what I've seen, Rodgers hasn't looked to be more than a backup. Maybe much of that is due to their OL, I haven't paid that much attention to it to really pinpoint the problems. And with breaking his foot, they won't be able to see him again this year. I would not be surprised at all to see them draft a QB pretty high next year.

A) We've seen practically nothing out of Aaron Rodgers yet

B) People said the same about Phil Rivers

C) If they lost faith in Rodgers they had a golden opportunity to fix their mistake, but they passed on both Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler.

 

[Gardenhead]

Peyton Manning might render this whole debate meaningless.

In 8 seasons (not counting this season), he's got 244 TDs. Dan Danny had 245 after 8 seasons (including his rookie year where he only played in 11 games).

 

[Dolfan4life!]

If I were the Packers I would tell him to retire. The team really needs to move on and find out what Aaron Rodgers has for them.

At this point, if Favre is delaying retirement just to get the records, it cheapens the records in my eyes...because he's hurting his team to get them.

If I were the Packers I would be screaming it. They are a relatively young team, with no prospects for greatness in their immediate future. Favre will not be a part of their next run, yet he is currently a part of their rebuilding process. McCarthy needs to man up and tell Favre it's time to go.

 

[WISfinfan13]

Alright ill throw my opinions in....Ive probally see Favre play more than anyone here and have been blessed to see favre and danny play each other 7 times...they are my two favorite qbs of all time both played the game with passion and believed everytime they touched the ball they were going to make playes...back to the comment that favre is hurting his team...He deffinately is not, at the beginging of the year he was playing well enough to be considered a probowler...if he finishes strong he still could be...Aaron Rodgers is out for the year, when favre got hurt against the Pats Aaron Rodgers came in and broke his foot...Pretty ironic Favre has started 252 straight games with no injuries Rodgers has played less than one half and out for the year...The guy is an icon and should not be told when to hang it up...And the biggest difference between Favre now and Marino in 1998 1999...is that nobody wants to see him quit, everyone wants him to keep playing as long as he can...Now to the touchdowns...My dream situation is that Favre ties Marino by the end of the year...Favre says he isnt even thinking about the record but im positive he is...If he ends the year at 418 knowing he only needs 2 more there is a good chance he will come back...Im selfish i want danny to have the record but would settel with a tie knowing the best two qbs of all time are tied for the record would be good enough for me...Until Peyton breaks all Marinos records in a few years......

The other record Favre is getting close to is Dans total wins which dan is acctually in second place one behind elway...Farve needed six to tie seven to lead coming into this year and Packers right now sit at 4 and 8 leaving him two to tie 3 to win...

 

[DolfanCole]

A) We've seen practically nothing out of Aaron Rodgers yet

B) People said the same about Phil Rivers

C) If they lost faith in Rodgers they had a golden opportunity to fix their mistake, but they passed on both Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler.

(A) True. But, I know that from what I've seen (and I admit that I am no expert), he hasn't shown much. For their sake, hopefully I'm wrong.

(B) Very true, can't argue that.

(C) True. But, I also recall a certain organization that passed on the golden opportunity to draft Drew Brees as well. Draft screw-ups happen all the time.

 

[CrunchTime]

The idea that the Packers org are somehow delaying Favres retirement is questionable.There are a lot of jobs on the line.Its more likely that they still think that Favre still gives them the best chance to win

I do think Favre is sticking around to break Marinos record.It just remains to be seen if he can outlast those who want him to retire.

 

[phinman1]

All the Pack have left is devoting the season to Favre breaking the record. They were running the ball well against the Jets, but kept passing. They actually averaged more yards per run then per pass I believe.

Marino achieved the record honorably, trying to win the Super Bowl and even took the team on his back in his last year to the playoffs. If Favre achieves the record, it wouldn't be as noble in my opinion.

 

[djfresh47]

Alright ill throw my opinions in....Ive probally see Favre play more than anyone here and have been blessed to see favre and danny play each other 7 times...they are my two favorite qbs of all time both played the game with passion and believed everytime they touched the ball they were going to make playes...back to the comment that favre is hurting his team...He deffinately is not, at the beginging of the year he was playing well enough to be considered a probowler...if he finishes strong he still could be...Aaron Rodgers is out for the year, when favre got hurt against the Pats Aaron Rodgers came in and broke his foot...Pretty ironic Favre has started 252 straight games with no injuries Rodgers has played less than one half and out for the year...The guy is an icon and should not be told when to hang it up...And the biggest difference between Favre now and Marino in 1998 1999...is that nobody wants to see him quit, everyone wants him to keep playing as long as he can...Now to the touchdowns...My dream situation is that Favre ties Marino by the end of the year...Favre says he isnt even thinking about the record but im positive he is...If he ends the year at 418 knowing he only needs 2 more there is a good chance he will come back...Im selfish i want danny to have the record but would settel with a tie knowing the best two qbs of all time are tied for the record would be good enough for me...Until Peyton breaks all Marinos records in a few years......

The other record Favre is getting close to is Dans total wins which dan is acctually in second place one behind elway...Farve needed six to tie seven to lead coming into this year and Packers right now sit at 4 and 8 leaving him two to tie 3 to win...

The Packers are 4-8 as iconic as Brett Favre is how much worse can they be with Rodgers? I really don't care about the records and have no rooting interest in the Packers but that organization will not tell Favre to retire eventhough they should. If they do everybody is going to be critical of the Packers and forget that Favre basically held them hostage all offseason without making a decision. If the Packers hate what they've seen from Aaron Rodgers in practice that is fine but isn't it better to see what he can do in extended playing time? I can't compare him to Phillip Rivers and would not think that he could have the immediate success like Rivers because the Packers are an awful team. More than anything Favre is a media darling and a guy fans can relate to because they see the smile and the emotion he plays with. He's often described as "playing like a kid" and fans like to see that but it masks his play and has been made into an icon who can seemingly do nothing wrong.

 

[PSMITH]

I have mentioned this before, but for all of the talk about how Farve should retire, I would still take him over at least half of the NFL's starting quarterbacks. Easily.

 

[Roman529]

I have mentioned this before, but for all of the talk about how Farve should retire, I would still take him over at least half of the NFL's starting quarterbacks. Easily.

Yeah but Favre is not going to get the Packers anywhere, and the longer he plays, the longer it is until the Packers turn it around offensively. They have no QB to replace Favre, but as long as Favre decided to stick around that leaves the team in limbo.

 

[SCall13]

It's my personal belief that the TD record is the only reason Favre came back, and if he doesn't get it this year, he'll come back next year (even if it meant hobbling on a cane) to pass him.

This IS just my humble opinion.