FH - Home of the Optimists- Draft Steals????

[BC Phins4Life]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think history of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

 

[Feverdream]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think hisory of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

A lot of the brothers here are major optimists... and yes, they fall in love quickly.

It's the nature of fandom. Chances are good that the same guys who fell in love with Doaks are now singing the praises of Brooks. It's just how it goes.

 

[eMCee85]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think hisory of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

It always makes me laugh when fools around here sing praises for 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round draft picks around here... always talking like this organization can do no wrong when they've been proven wrong for 25 plus years. Just unbelievable

 

[Highzenga]

Anyone drafted past the 4th round couldve easily went undrafted. The talent gets drafted in the first 3 rounds then it’s a total crapshoot. As far as the players the op mentioned, I wouldn’t bet the house that they will make the team. Likely practice squad if anything. Remember we have a loaded roster.

 

[Birdmond]

It always makes me laugh when fools around here sing praises for 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round draft picks around here... always talking like this organization can do no wrong when they've been proven wrong for 25 plus years. Just unbelievable

It’s not the “fools” signing the praises of Miami’s late round picks THIS year. It’s nearly every draft guru you can think of.

 

[Bob512]

It always makes me laugh when fools around here sing praises for 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round draft picks around here... always talking like this organization can do no wrong when they've been proven wrong for 25 plus years. Just unbelievable

I'm not sure "fools" is the proper way to describe fans enthusiasm for the teams players

Now, posting a poll about the team's GM being an idiot when he was actually doing a solid job in free agency....that would be something we could point to as "foolish"

 

[Danny]

here's the good news.......games are played out on the field so before we know it, the new season will be here and we'll see how these players do.....there will be no need for speculation anymore at that point. We will see if we drafted the right players or not. but it is the off season and it's ok to get high or low on the players/team at this point.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think hisory of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

First, I'll admit to worry about some of the expectations of FH brothers and sisters. There are always threads between draft and the final roster expressing optimism about most (all?) draft picks and a number of UDFAs. Never turns out that way. I've thought a few times of starting a thread 'name two 2024 draft picks who will disappoint' but thought better of it.
In defense of the optimists, they ARE fans, want Miami to win the SB (so do I), and see everything 'Dolphins' through that lens. It's exceedingly common for the last player or two on the roster to get there due to ST. No one knows who that will be. I've said previously, many players never make it because they don't have the NFL mental quickness and or can't absorb the NFL complexity. Who will those be? I don't know. Some won't make it because the staff thinks their skill set is redundant with existing players or doesn't match the needs they see. Again, no one knows that. All fans go by is raw talent.
Conversely, there are 'good' surprises just about every year. That's what makes this time of year fun.

 

[Jssanto]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think hisory of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

I think you are giving a nice definition of OTAs. Every team thinks they have drafted pro bowlers and is a play off contender.

 

[Etuoo33]

You can't always measure what goes on between the ears. Most NFL caliber athletes are similarly blessed with physical talent, but some pick up things faster, (than Tindall) recognize situations and react according to what their jobs are, better than others more highly drafted (like Iggy or Eli Apple). Some of those guy's don't go early in the draft. Some don't even get drafted (Bonner and Kohou).

 

[Fin-Loco]

I will be the first to always admit. I am no expert in Football. I do watch and have watched for years and study the game as I can and understand it more and more each year. With that said, this forum every year sings the praises of late round draft picks. We have the steal of the 5th round, the star of the 6th who should have been a 3rd etc.

The reality I see when we look at our current roster is that we have I think 2 undrafted players, Kohou, Needham and Sieler was a 7th round pick for the Ravens? The rest of our roster was drafted in rounds 1 or 2 or signed or traded for. Tindill is the elephant in the room drafted in round 3 that people are still hoping becomes a starter. Then there is Smythe drafted in round 4.

Why is there so much love for Kamara and Malik and Tajh- are we that good that we get steals that late?

Last year I think I remember much love for Hayes and did Higgins even make a dent into the roster ever
Goode and Skylar were 7th rounders and both have seen some time due to depth injuries
I will stop at 2021 where Larnell Coleman and Gerrid Doaks were 7th rounders.....I remember immense love for Doaks especially

With that said I will be shocked if Tajh makes the team right out of camp.... I also expect nothing from Kamara or Malik this year and hope they do become more effective than a Cameron Goode somewhere down the road.

Of course I hope I am wrong and we found some gems. I just do not think hisory of late round picks generates much playing time for the Dolphins

I'm as optimistic as it gets as we all know. However, I never expect late round picks to become starters. If they do, that is outstanding. However, past 4th MAYBE 5th round, I'm at best, hopeful.

 

[VBCheeseGrater]

Whatever happened to Doaks anyway? We finally had a bruiser (IIRC) and then I simply forgot he existed until you posted here. Now I remember in the gamethreads, a large sprinkling of "DOAKS!!!" posts everytime he touched the ball.

That aside I think you bring up good points OP with a bit of historical data to back it up, good post.

 

[eMCee85]

I'm not sure "fools" is the proper way to describe fans enthusiasm for the teams players

Now, posting a poll about the team's GM being an idiot when he was actually doing a solid job in free agency....that would be something we could point to as "foolish"

Haha. I say fools because how many times have we been FA Champions to only continue to be a non factor?

But I hear ya, fools is probably to much for the sensitive society we are today. So I'll take that back and just say people get too excited.

 

[TFK]

Whatever happened to Doaks anyway? We finally had a bruiser (IIRC) and then I simply forgot he existed until you posted here. Now I remember in the gamethreads, a large sprinkling of "DOAKS!!!" posts everytime he touched the ball.

That aside I think you bring up good points OP with a bit of historical data to back it up, good post.

Doaks always looked like he was running uphill carrying a piano on his back.

 

[The Ghost]

I think a lot of you are missing the mark on this one.

It goes without saying that all the players drafted in the later rounds were good college players and showed something in terms of talent, to make an NFL scout or exec be intrigued by their potential.

Most draft fans know the facts but at the end of the day the whole concept of professional sports is predicated on the hope and belief that "this is our year". Hope is the basis for Fandom.

Some people just subscribe to the "show me first" theory where they just don't want to get their hopes up before putting the weight of their support behind said players.

Just about everyone knows the odds and just about everyone knows guys like Zack Thomas Reshad Jones, Zach Seiler and Cameron Wake fall through thr cracks. That's why you allow yourselves to believe these late round or undrafted types might make it.

No one is betting their homes on these prospects to make it but it's certainly normal to see some talent in these players and support them until they no longer can.

Speaking specifically about Mohammed Kamara and Malik Washington, these are guys who were wildly successful in college and many pundits had then rated significantly higher than they were drafted. In both players cases it was due entirely to their size.

Again, it all comes down to hope. And if your fan who doesn't subscribe to hope, how horrible is the off-season for your type?