Fins vs Pats breakdown

[TheDon74]

Unless something unforeseen occurs, I will go with the assumption that the Fins and Pats will be battling for the AFC East crown.

Fin names on top, Pats on the bottom (as it should be)
(X) goes to the winner

QB
Pennington
Brady (X)

QB2
Henne (X)
O'Connell

RB
Brown (X)
Morris

RB2
Williams (tie)
Taylor

RB3
Cobbs (tie)
Maroney/Faulk

FB
Polite
N/A

WR
Ginn
Moss (X)

WR2
Camarillo
Welker (X)

WR3
Bess (X)
Galloway

TE
Fasano (X)
Watson

TE2
Martin (X)
Baker

LT
Long (X)
Light

RT
Carey (X)
Kaczur

LG
Smiley (?)
Mankins

RG
Thomas (?)
Neal

C
Grove (?)
Koppen

K
Carpenter
Gostkowski (X)

P
Fields (tie)
Hanson

------

LE
Langford (X)
Warren

RE
Merling
Seymour (X)

NT
Ferguson
Wilfork (X)

ILB
Crowder
Mayo (X)

ILB
Ayodele (tie)
Bruschi

OL
Porter (X)
Thomas

OL
Taylor (X)
Woods

CB
Allen (X)
Springs

CB
Green
Bodden (X)

FS
Wilson (X)
Sanders

SS
Bell (X)
Meriweather

This list is of course just my opinion, I was bored and felt like doing something. I can't wait for the season to finally get here! As much as everyone brings up our "hard" schedule they seem to forget that the Pats have pretty much the same exact schedule as us, so it should be very interesting this year. I think it will come down to the head to head games.

I didn't even get to figure Pat White into my rankings, so for lack of a better phrase he could be the 'wild card' in all this.

 

[jlfin]

Unless something unforeseen occurs, I will go with the assumption that the Fins and Pats will be battling for the AFC East crown.

Fin names on top, Pats on the bottom (as it should be)
(X) goes to the winner

QB
Pennington
Brady (X)

QB2
Henne (X)
O'Connell

RB
Brown (X)
Morris

RB2
Williams (tie)
Taylor

RB3
Cobbs (tie)
Maroney/Faulk

FB
Polite
N/A

WR
Ginn
Moss (X)

WR2
Camarillo
Welker (X)

WR3
Bess (X)
Galloway

TE
Fasano (X)
Watson

TE2
Martin (X)
Baker

LT
Long (X)
Light

RT
Carey (X)
Kaczur

LG
Smiley (?)
Mankins

RG
Thomas (?)
Neal

C
Grove (?)
Koppen

K
Carpenter
Gostkowski (X)

P
Fields (tie)
Hanson

------

LE
Langford (X)
Warren

RE
Merling
Seymour (X)

NT
Ferguson
Wilfork (X)

ILB
Crowder
Mayo (X)

ILB
Ayodele (tie)
Bruschi

OL
Porter (X)
Thomas

OL
Taylor (X)
Woods

CB
Allen (X)
Springs

CB
Green
Bodden (X)

FS
Wilson (X)
Sanders

SS
Bell (X)
Meriweather

This list is of course just my opinion, I was bored and felt like doing something. I can't wait for the season to finally get here! As much as everyone brings up our "hard" schedule they seem to forget that the Pats have pretty much the same exact schedule as us, so it should be very interesting this year. I think it will come down to the head to head games.

I didn't even get to figure Pat White into my rankings, so for lack of a better phrase he could be the 'wild card' in all this.

I disagree with Mayo over Crowder. Mayo is not a game changer. He makes the plays he's supposed to make (just like Crowder).
Ayodele due to his age is better than Bruschi right now, especially in pass coverage. I would also take Grove over Koppen. The Phins are a younger team and I suspect we'll be taking Thomas over Neal in due time.
Our WR's are a work in progress and I think they stack up well against the Pats WR's when you take Moss out of the mix. Welker would not be a clear starter opposite Ginn on the Phins IMO.
I'm sorry, I think Welker is a nice player, but likely the most over rated player in the league.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

Not bad....but I thought Logan Mankins over Smiley would've been as easy as Tom Brady over Chad Pennington...

...as well as Ty Warren over Kendall Langford....

 

[enduro]

Unless something unforeseen occurs, I will go with the assumption that the Fins and Pats will be battling for the AFC East crown.

Fin names on top, Pats on the bottom (as it should be)
(X) goes to the winner

QB
Pennington
Brady (X)

QB2
Henne (X)
O'Connell

RB
Brown (X)
Morris

RB2
Williams (tie)
Taylor

RB3
Cobbs (tie)
Maroney/Faulk

FB
Polite
N/A

WR
Ginn
Moss (X)

WR2
Camarillo
Welker (X)

WR3
Bess (X)
Galloway

TE
Fasano (X)
Watson

TE2
Martin (X)
Baker

LT
Long (X)
Light

RT
Carey (X)
Kaczur

LG
Smiley (?)
Mankins

RG
Thomas (?)
Neal

C
Grove (?)
Koppen

K
Carpenter
Gostkowski (X)

P
Fields (tie)
Hanson

------

LE
Langford (X)
Warren

RE
Merling
Seymour (X)

NT
Ferguson
Wilfork (X)

ILB
Crowder
Mayo (X)

ILB
Ayodele (tie)
Bruschi

OL
Porter (X)
Thomas

OL
Taylor (X)
Woods

CB
Allen (X)
Springs

CB
Green
Bodden (X)

FS
Wilson (X)
Sanders

SS
Bell (X)
Meriweather

This list is of course just my opinion, I was bored and felt like doing something. I can't wait for the season to finally get here! As much as everyone brings up our "hard" schedule they seem to forget that the Pats have pretty much the same exact schedule as us, so it should be very interesting this year. I think it will come down to the head to head games.

I didn't even get to figure Pat White into my rankings, so for lack of a better phrase he could be the 'wild card' in all this.

Fin names on top, Pats on the bottom (as it should be)
(X) goes to the winner

QB
Pennington
Brady (X)

QB2
Henne (X)
O'Connell

RB
Brown (X)
Morris

RB2
Williams (tie)
Taylor

RB3
Cobbs (tie)
Maroney/Faulk

FB
Polite
N/A

WR
Ginn
Moss (X)

WR2
Camarillo
Welker (X)

WR3
Bess (tie)
Galloway

TE
Fasano (tie)
Watson

TE2
Martin (X)
Baker

LT
Long (X)
Light

RT
Carey (X)
Kaczur

LG
Smiley
Mankins (x)

RG
Thomas (?)
Neal

C
Grove (tie)
Koppen

K
Carpenter
Gostkowski (tie)

P
Fields (tie)
Hanson

------

LE
Langford (X)
Warren

RE
Merling
Seymour (X)

NT
Ferguson
Wilfork (X)

ILB
Crowder (x)
Mayo

ILB
Ayodele (x)
Bruschi

OL
Porter (X)
Thomas

OL
Taylor (X)
Woods

CB
Allen (X)
Springs

CB
Green
Bodden (X)

FS
Wilson (X)
Sanders

SS
Bell (X)
Meriweather


i made some changes

 

[jim1]

I disagree with Mayo over Crowder. Mayo is not a game changer. He makes the plays he's supposed to make (just like Crowder).
Ayodele due to his age is better than Bruschi right now, especially in pass coverage. I would also take Grove over Koppen. The Phins are a younger team and I suspect we'll be taking Thomas over Neal in due time.
Our WR's are a work in progress and I think they stack up well against the Pats WR's when you take Moss out of the mix. Welker would not be a clear starter opposite Ginn on the Phins IMO.
I'm sorry, I think Welker is a nice player, but likely the most over rated player in the league.

I would take Mayo. I like Crowder, but Mayo already is good and might end up being really good. 128 tackles last year vs. 92 for Crowder.

 

[flounder97]

The LT is a really tough call. Long is good, but Light has been good for years. Also, I think most people would take Bruschi over Akin.

 

[enduro]

The LT is a really tough call. Long is good, but Light has been good for years. Also, I think most people would take Bruschi over Akin.

This is bruschi last season and he won't last the entire season. He is finished.

 

[KDog13]

I like what you did but i disagree about Maroney/Faulk a tie with Cobbs. Faulk is a great recieving rb and Marooney can be good if he stayed healthy. Cobbs is good but need to prove that again. I would give the edge to Maroney/Faulk that one

 

[nyjunc]

Unless something unforeseen occurs, I will go with the assumption that the Fins and Pats will be battling for the AFC East crown.

Fin names on top, Pats on the bottom (as it should be)
(X) goes to the winner

QB
Pennington
Brady (X)

QB2
Henne (X)
O'Connell

RB
Brown (X)
Morris

RB2
Williams (tie)
Taylor

RB3
Cobbs (tie)
Maroney/Faulk

FB
Polite
N/A

WR
Ginn
Moss (X)

WR2
Camarillo
Welker (X)

WR3
Bess (X)
Galloway

TE
Fasano (X)
Watson

TE2
Martin (X)
Baker

LT
Long (X)
Light

RT
Carey (X)
Kaczur

LG
Smiley (?)
Mankins

RG
Thomas (?)
Neal

C
Grove (?)
Koppen

K
Carpenter
Gostkowski (X)

P
Fields (tie)
Hanson

------

LE
Langford (X)
Warren

RE
Merling
Seymour (X)

NT
Ferguson
Wilfork (X)

ILB
Crowder
Mayo (X)

ILB
Ayodele (tie)
Bruschi

OL
Porter (X)
Thomas

OL
Taylor (X)
Woods

CB
Allen (X)
Springs

CB
Green
Bodden (X)

FS
Wilson (X)
Sanders

SS
Bell (X)
Meriweather

This list is of course just my opinion, I was bored and felt like doing something. I can't wait for the season to finally get here! As much as everyone brings up our "hard" schedule they seem to forget that the Pats have pretty much the same exact schedule as us, so it should be very interesting this year. I think it will come down to the head to head games.

I didn't even get to figure Pat White into my rankings, so for lack of a better phrase he could be the 'wild card' in all this.

Why would Henne get the nod over O'Connell? neither has done anything but supposedly NE is higher on O'Connell than they were Cassell.

You RBs are better but their 3rd down back is better

Their WRs are light years ahead of yours.

starting TEs are even, including depth NE easily takes this one.

Long vs Light is even right now

Kaczur edges carey

mankins over smiley

koppen at C


How is Langford ahead of Ty Warren already?

I disagree with Mayo over Crowder. Mayo is not a game changer. He makes the plays he's supposed to make (just like Crowder).
Ayodele due to his age is better than Bruschi right now, especially in pass coverage. I would also take Grove over Koppen. The Phins are a younger team and I suspect we'll be taking Thomas over Neal in due time.
Our WR's are a work in progress and I think they stack up well against the Pats WR's when you take Moss out of the mix. Welker would not be a clear starter opposite Ginn on the Phins IMO.
I'm sorry, I think Welker is a nice player, but likely the most over rated player in the league.

Mayo vs. Crowder is no contest. Mayo in a landslide.

You WRs don't stack up at all against NE's. Welker would be your best WR right now. I agree Welker is a bit overrated BUT he's still better than anyone you have right now.

 

[ArmyFin7]

I think the landscape will seriously change next season. Most of the pats d-line and o-line will be FAs next season.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

There's actually some talk inside the Pats organization that many feel like Ty Warren may have even surpassed Seymour as their best defensive end.....which also is what may make Seymour expendable...

 

[TheDon74]

Not bad....but I thought Logan Mankins over Smiley would've been as easy as Tom Brady over Chad Pennington...

...as well as Ty Warren over Kendall Langford....

I just don't know enough about there interior O-line to have an opinion that's why I left those with a (?) I kind of figured they where stronger there though seeing they run by committee and quietly are at the top of the league each year in rushing.

 

[TheDon74]

I would take Mayo. I like Crowder, but Mayo already is good and might end up being really good. 128 tackles last year vs. 92 for Crowder.

He was also the defensive rookie of the year. I've never been high on Crowder. I hope he changes my mind this year.

 

[TheDon74]

I like what you did but i disagree about Maroney/Faulk a tie with Cobbs. Faulk is a great recieving rb and Marooney can be good if he stayed healthy. Cobbs is good but need to prove that again. I would give the edge to Maroney/Faulk that one

I went with the (tie) on that one because of the injuries and because Cobbs special teams contributions

 

[TheDon74]

The LT is a really tough call. Long is good, but Light has been good for years. Also, I think most people would take Bruschi over Akin.

I had a hard time with that LT spot but the fact that Long was a pro bowler last year and Light was not gave him the edge in the end for me.

As far as Bruschi/Akin, I tried not to let someones body of work influence me. With that said Bruschi is about done at this point.