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Bill Parcells 3 -12-1

Bill Belichick 6-10 in his first year at Cleveland and 5-11 with New England

Jimmy Johnson 1-15

Chuck Noll 1-13

Tom Landry 0-11-1

Mike Shanahan 7-9

Bud Grant 3-8-3

Bill Walsh 2-14

Enough said.
 
Thanks, I was hoping someone would start this thread.
 
Nick is God said:
Bill Parcells 3 -12-1

Bill Belichick 6-10 in his first year at Cleveland and 5-11 with New England

Jimmy Johnson 1-15

Chuck Noll 1-13

Tom Landry 0-11-1

Mike Shanahan 7-9

Bud Grant 3-8-3

Bill Walsh 2-14

Enough said.
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:shakeno: @ u using your head. i dont think its aloud in here.
 
It's a great thread, but it's only half the point. I need to see the GOOD first-year records of great coaches too. There may not be any or many, and that would support the point, but the point is incomplete without that info IMO.

Show me:

Don Shula
Joe Gibbs
Mike Ditka
Vince Lombardi
Jon Gruden
Dick Vermeil

You get the point....
 
Marv Levy went 4-12 in his first year.

shouright said:
It's a great thread, but it's only half the point. I need to see the GOOD first-year records of great coaches too. There may not be any or many, and that would support the point, but the point is incomplete without that info IMO.
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I'm not saying all of these coaches are great, but here's some more records of coaches most people have heard of.

Don Shula: 8-6
Dan Reeves: 10-6
George Seifert: 14-2, including winning the SB.
John Madden: 12-1-1
Mike Holmgren: 9-7
George Halas: 10-1-2
Dennis Green: 11-5
Joe Gibbs: 8-8
Mike Ditka: 3-6
Vince Lombardi: 7-5
Jon Gruden: 8-8
Dick Vermeil: 4-10
 
shouright said:
It's a great thread, but it's only half the point. I need to see the GOOD first-year records of great coaches too. There may not be any or many, and that would support the point, but the point is incomplete without that info IMO.

Show me:

Don Shula
Joe Gibbs
Mike Ditka
Vince Lombardi
Jon Gruden
Dick Vermeil

You get the point....
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The six that you have listed here have won 11 Super Bowls for a SBPC (Super Bowls Per Coach :D ) average of 1.8 while my eight have won 20 Super Bowls for a much better SBPC average of 2.5, a much bigger point, .7 to be exact.

What this proves that some of the best coaches ever had seasons like Saban and that the truth is sometimes teams have to get worse before they can get better.

Hell, I remember watching the Giants in Parcells first year and just about everyone wanted this man gone and was questioned if he was up to the job or not and I'd say it was a good thing the Giants knew what they were doing and didn't listen to their incredibly impatient media and fans.

And then there was Jimmy Johnson also catching hit during his first year, how dare he go 1-15? But the Cowboys didn't get rid of him. Good thing too.


Honestly, if someone told me that a calibur of a coach as Saban would be getting vilified by Dolphan fans after just ten games I would have never believed it, not in a million years.

I guess I'm just so shocked how wrong I am.
 
byroan said:
Marv Levy went 4-12 in his first year.



I'm not saying all of these coaches are great, but here's some more records of coaches most people have heard of.

Don Shula: 8-6
Dan Reeves: 10-6
George Seifert: 14-2, including winning the SB.
John Madden: 12-1-1
Mike Holmgren: 9-7
George Halas: 10-1-2
Dennis Green: 11-5
Joe Gibbs: 8-8
Mike Ditka: 3-6
Vince Lombardi: 7-5
Jon Gruden: 8-8
Dick Vermeil: 4-10
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I wouldn't even include Seifert. He inherited a stacked 49ers team already in the middle of a dynasty. Kinda like when Switzer inherited JJ's Cowboys.
 
Rebar71 said:
I wouldn't even include Seifert. He inherited a stacked 49ers team already in the middle of a dynasty. Kinda like when Switzer inherited JJ's Cowboys.
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Yeah I agree. Seifert showed us he was nothing in Carolina.
 
dominizzo said:
Very good read at least this thread should make people shut up about the Saban Talk
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It should, but it won't. They don't go quiet without a fight or until they are completely proved wrong by, say, The fins winning.
 
kastofsna120 said:
i think he's dying/dead
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:rofl3:

Best response of the week.

Anybody who thought Saban was going to make us Super Bowl contenders overnight is a fool. We have an atrocious team, and it's going to take time to rebuild and get us back in contention, especially since we have the worst QB core in the league. For those of you who are ridiculously impatient, I suggest calming the hell down, or becoming a bandwagon fan of the flavor of the month, or ditching football altogether to go root for the New York Yankees.

I like what Saban's doing with the team, and I'm confident he'll rebuild this team and make Miami #1 again. It's probably going to take two or three more seasons, but the wait will pay off in the end.
 
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