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Tony Sporano took 1 win team, to 11 wins the NEXT year. I like Flores, but a 30 % winning percentage is not going to cut it. I know everyone love's Flores, like I do. But, you are what your record says you are, and 6-14 is awful.
 
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Tony Sporano took 1 win team, to 11 wins the NEXT year. I like Flores, but a 30 % winning percentage is not going to cut it. I know everyone love's Flores, like I do. But, you are what your record says you are, and 6-14 is awful.
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Give Flores Chad Pennington and what's his record over that time?...Drawing conclusions from records is asinine. Who wins yesterday's game if Wilson is playing for Miami? Look at the talent on the Cowboys and what's their record? Oh, and they have a "Superbowl winning coach" in McCarthy...who happened to with his SB with Aaron Rodgers.
 
devarso11 said:
Tony Sporano took 1 win team, to 11 wins the NEXT year. I like Flores, but a 30 % winning percentage is not going to cut it. I know everyone love's Flores, like I do. But, you are what your record says you are, and 6-14 is awful.
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Yeah, well his QB is sitting on the bench, in case you haven't noticed.

He took over a complete Gasemare of a team that had to be rebuilt top to bottom
 
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Yeah, well his QB is sitting on the bench, in case you haven't noticed.

He took over a complete Gasemare of a team that had to be rebuilt top to bottom
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This plus if Miami plays mistake free ball they are probably at least 2-2 if not 3-1, last year you could not say that.
 
It’s a bit unfair to judge his winning % when he took over in a planned gut / rebuild. Have to give him 3-4 years, see what happens a Tua takes over. BB wouldn’t take this Miami team to the playoffs. Either would Shula or Lombardi. Face facts, we don’t have enough talent yet.
 
This is just fan thinking. Fans like the players better, unless they are old, so blame the coaches. You can bet your bottom dollar if Tua struggles it’s all Gailey’s fault. There is no way in holy hell that won’t be the narrative on here. Tua could suck but it will take at least 2 OC’s for Finheaven to admit that. For the record I’m not rooting for that, just making a point. I’ve been here a long time and when the new young QB struggles it’s always the OC first.
 
devarso11 said:
Tony Sporano took 1 win team, to 11 wins the NEXT year. I like Flores, but a 30 % winning percentage is not going to cut it. I know everyone love's Flores, like I do. But, you are what your record says you are, and 6-14 is awful.
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Wow. Talk about context. Sure, a 30% winning percentage won't cut it. That's a fact.

But, where's the context? The talking heads last year were saying that what Miami was doing was an embarrassment, that they were going to win 0 games that year and be the worst team of all time.

And Flores brought the team to 5 wins.
 
Adam Gase record with the jets is 6-14 with the jets, same as Flores record in Miami. Miami needs to raise it standards. Jets running him out of town (like they should), miami fans think Flores is some mastermind coach. You are what your record says you are, PERIOD. He needs to win. Everyone is giving him a participation trophy, for being competitive.
 
That 2008 season had mostly to do with the schedule.

The two divisions the AFC East played were the AFC West and NFC West. The only team that had a winning record was the 9-7 Cardinals and that is because they went 6-0 in their division.

The AFC West champs Chargers finished 8-8 by going 5-1 in their division.

It helped Miami was able to host 4 west coast teams...SD, SF, Seattle, and Oakland of which they won by a combined 16 points.

Unleashing the wildcat did result in a Brady-less NE win and helped in other wins as well as teams were unprepared since it was novel.

The schedule is mostly why 2008 and 2016 were not sustainable. Someday fans might figure out that schedule matters.

The wildcard games against the Ravens and Steelers that were beat-downs during those respective years gives a more accurate assessment of the quality of those Dolphin teams and why their record regressed to the norm the following years.

I am not trying to bash those years as meaningless because they were enjoyable being a fan. I just understood the context recognizing the Dolphins hadn't crossed that threshold of becoming an elite team and perennial playoff contender.

Sparano also was not hired to do a complete rebuild.

That Miami has lost to NE, Buffalo and Seattle is not a surprise or that Miami beat the Jags.

This roster had significant turnover again with no OTA's or preseason games.

Are all these threads about how bad Flores is emotional reactions or just fans losing their sanity?

This team is a little more than a year into a full rebuild, mostly through the draft and signing young players so there isn't the talent yet to beat the upper echelon teams.

Given the context, no one in their right mind would think Miami was going to beat NE, Buffalo or Seattle. That Miami has been competitive in all three of those games tells me Flores is on the right path.
 
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