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[jim1]

Among the Dolphins' NFL Draft conundrums: If they use the No. 25 pick on defense (cornerback or pass-rushing linebacker) -- something that would be justified -- can they land an eventual starting receiver at No. 44 or 56, ideally someone who could develop into a true No. 1?

Although Bill Parcells rarely has used his top pick on a receiver, the problem is ''once you get to 40,'' NFL Network's Mike Mayock predicted, '' Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt, and Brian Robiskie will be gone,'' and so will Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Percy Harvin. (Analysts see a drop-off after that).

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/1011079.html

 

[fiftyofhaze]

what pick does mayock have this year?!!!! oh rite after kiper jr... these dudes are guessing, they miss cleo type. sat we will probably have at least 25 unexpected things happen some will make sense now and others never

 

[ADavieDolphin]

by 40? not all of them, Robiskie should be there for sure..
I'm betting Robiskie and either Harvin or Nicks fall here. everyone else will be taken before 40

 

[aj13]

exactly...but there will be corners available in round 2...i think the dolphins rate their nicks over robiskie who is over britt....

 

[fiftyofhaze]

i think we go cb first or best available player or we could go for more picks and trade down

 

[IndyFinFan]

What if the bpa is Knowshon Moreno? Do you pass on him even though rb is not a need? AND, What if they do select him and Percy Harvin is on the board still @ 44?

 

[jim1]

What if the bpa is Knowshon Moreno? Do you pass on him even though rb is not a need? AND, What if they do select him and Percy Harvin is on the board still @ 44?

Moreno is very, very good. Talk about a value pick but not a need. Dude makes cuts like no one's business. I guess that it depends on the RB trade talk- not that I'm in favor of trading him, but you never know. He was old coming into the leaugue- dude is pushing 28 now, and he popped his knee. But he sure brings some power to the equation, let's see what he can do with JG and DT in front of him now. I wouldn't mind at all picking the right OL at #56 to help out there. Maybe Unger at #44, you never know. We need depth, Unger would solve so many problems, allow them to cut the dead weight. Still intrigued by Cadogan as well.

Percy Harvin- what a shame with all of these character issues surfacing. Not very bright, to say the least. If we took Moreno and Harvin I'd be fine with that- you have to factor in time frames, FA status and overall needs. It's about more than what you need right here and now. Still intrigued more by K Barnes and B Fletcher than reaching for a CB early. Value, value, value. Bottom line. Still like H Nicks- safe pick, fill the need. The one guy that makes me hesitate- Dudley Guice. I watched a little tape of him and thought, yup. That dude will do. Complete WR from what I saw- size, speed, hands, quicks, route runner, cuts well when running patterns. Duly impressed. Whoever brought this guy up, I think CK, good call.

 

[FinSolari]

Moreno is very, very good. Talk about a value pick but not a need. Dude makes cuts like no one's business. I guess that it depends on the RB trade talk- not that I'm in favor of trading him, but you never know. He was old coming into the leaugue- dude is pushing 28 now, and he popped his knee. But he sure brings some power to the equation, let's see what he can do with JG and DT in front of him now. I wouldn't mind at all picking the right OL at #56 to help out there. Maybe Unger at #44, you never know. We need depth, Unger would solve so many problems, allow them to cut the dead weight. Still intrigued by Cadogan as well.

Percy Harvin- what a shame with all of these character issues surfacing. Not very bright, to say the least. If we took Moreno and Harvin I'd be fine with that- you have to factor in time frames, FA status and overall needs. It's about more than what you need right here and now. Still intrigued more by K Barnes and B Fletcher than reaching for a CB early. Value, value, value. Bottom line. Still like H Nicks- safe pick, fill the need. The one guy that makes me hesitate- Dudley Guice. I watched a little tape of him and thought, yup. That dude will do. Complete WR from what I saw- size, speed, hands, quicks, route runner, cuts well when running patterns. Duly impressed. Whoever brought this guy up, I think CK, good call.

Oh please not someone named Fletcher! that name brings me nightmares!

 

[newlownorder]

What if the bpa is Knowshon Moreno? Do you pass on him even though rb is not a need? AND, What if they do select him and Percy Harvin is on the board still @ 44?

Well, if you think about it Parcells passes up RB's as much as he does WR's. Remember when he passed on Steven Jackson for Julius Jones?

I think Parcells knows that this year he has to target a CB and WR. To me, unless Jenkins is there you don't take a CB because they are all graded to be 2nd rounders and it would be a reach. You could agrue Davis but to me he's overrated. I think you go Bey, Harvin, Nicks or Britt with the pick, take a DE/OLB hybrid with your 1st pick in the 2nd round and then take a CB or BPA with the later 2nd round pick.

 

[Lord Of Miami]

Moreno is very, very good. Talk about a value pick but not a need. Dude makes cuts like no one's business. I guess that it depends on the RB trade talk- not that I'm in favor of trading him, but you never know. He was old coming into the leaugue- dude is pushing 28 now, and he popped his knee. But he sure brings some power to the equation, let's see what he can do with JG and DT in front of him now. I wouldn't mind at all picking the right OL at #56 to help out there. Maybe Unger at #44, you never know. We need depth, Unger would solve so many problems, allow them to cut the dead weight. Still intrigued by Cadogan as well.

Percy Harvin- what a shame with all of these character issues surfacing. Not very bright, to say the least. If we took Moreno and Harvin I'd be fine with that- you have to factor in time frames, FA status and overall needs. It's about more than what you need right here and now. Still intrigued more by K Barnes and B Fletcher than reaching for a CB early. Value, value, value. Bottom line. Still like H Nicks- safe pick, fill the need. The one guy that makes me hesitate- Dudley Guice. I watched a little tape of him and thought, yup. That dude will do. Complete WR from what I saw- size, speed, hands, quicks, route runner, cuts well when running patterns. Duly impressed. Whoever brought this guy up, I think CK, good call.

Jim1, you may have heard of him form me from my mock draft i did at the other site 22 weeks ago where i had the youtube clips of him and other guys in my Mock.

I also had Mack, Butler and Herman Johnson clips as well.It's crazy how Nick's and Butler have moved up in the draft since then.

 

[DOC33]

by 40? not all of them, Robiskie should be there for sure..
I'm betting Robiskie and either Harvin or Nicks fall here. everyone else will be taken before 40

We dont need to draft a reciever just to add another body. Robiskie is another version of Camarillo with a bit more quicks. At best he is a #2 possession WR. We have that player already. I think the trifecta is looking for a specific skill set if they end up drafting a WR. They need a WR that can provide them with RAC yds, someone with some special size, someone that can contribute in the return game, or if possible contribute to special teams as a flyer etc. as they develop. I dont think that Robiskie does any of those things or have any of those skills specifically. If they dont take Nicks or Britt early look for a WR in rds 4-7.

 

[3rdandinches]

BPA can be 32 different perspectives, one team will see a RB as BPA where ours will say there's not much of a difference between a 2nd round RB and a 5th round RB.

I would think if Harvin falls to 44 he would be BPA unless Butler falls too. Harvin is a top ten talent with question marks but at 44 he becomes a steal.

 

[GoonBoss]

No way is Parcells going to draft a WR with his #1. The need at CB is too great, and, the talent that will be there (at CB) is not going to be starting quality at 40. This team is better at WR than we are at CB right now.

 

[finfan54]

No way is Parcells going to draft a WR with his #1. The need at CB is too great, and, the talent that will be there (at CB) is not going to be starting quality at 40. This team is better at WR than we are at CB right now.

I tend to agree. Praying for Darius Butler.

 

[jim1]

No way is Parcells going to draft a WR with his #1. The need at CB is too great, and, the talent that will be there (at CB) is not going to be starting quality at 40. This team is better at WR than we are at CB right now.

Great need doesn't = force a pick in my opinion.