Flounder or Dolphin?

[finner]

Coaching, motivating, and setting the bar high enough for a good start…

OK, so lets get back to reality. A few weeks ago at 1-6 this team was 100% Flounder and 0% Dolphin. Things were so embarrassing the Flounder was humiliated publicly by certain alums from the glory days for their “lack of heart.†Lo and behold, the Dolphins showed up with a sense of urgency multiplied by a “something to prove†chip on the dorsal fins.

Humm, let me see --- that sounds a lot like motivation. The lack of fire and motivation of the Flounder underscores the fact of how seriously underperforming and underachieving the Dolphin’s have been. And lets see, who is in charge of the teams motivational needs? Could it be Saban?

Bingo! So before everyone starts counting the leftovers from another lost season don’t forget where the responsibility lies for the atrocious performance over the first 7 games.

Wake up call. It’s too late to start playing Dolphin football when the Flounder blew out half the season! Now watch this team win just enough to knock itself out of the Sashimi grade section of the draft!

 

[Dolphan23]

hahaha lets hope so!

 

[DePhinistr8]

yeah let's blow the rest of the season so that we can have a high draft pick that may or may not pan out, while creating an atmosphere of losing and negativity so that certain posters and fans may wallow in their misery

1 star

 

[finner]

yeah let's blow the rest of the season so that we can have a high draft pick that may or may not pan out, while creating an atmosphere of losing and negativity so that certain posters and fans may wallow in their misery

1 star

Interesting... The "atmosphere of losing," which already blew the season, was who's fault/responsibility?

This team has established a bad "trend" under Saban: Blow-out the season and then start showing up to play after its too late. That's not my idea of a "winning atmosphere."

The fact that the team has proven so much better than it demonstrated the first 7 games is a revealation of not being ready at the start of the season. I for one do not believe that's a recipe for winning football.

Really good coaches have their team ready to play, week in and week out.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

Maybe, just maybe losing every right guard they had before the start of the season had something to do with the 1-6 start.

 

[DePhinistr8]

Interesting... The "atmosphere of losing," which already blew the season, was who's fault/responsibility?

This team has established a bad "trend" under Saban: Blow-out the season and then start showing up to play after its too late. That's not my idea of a "winning atmosphere."

The fact that the team has proven so much better than it demonstrated the first 7 games is a revealation of not being ready at the start of the season. I for one do not believe that's a recipe for winning football.

Really good coaches have their team ready to play, week in and week out.

alrighty then, so you're ready to establish a pattern about this coach after a mere 25 games, in which there have been probably the most roster changes in the nfl.

there's a reason he got a long-term deal, so that he can get by with what he inherited, and attempt to either mold those players or bring in players that meet the style he wants

you can't bash the coach when the team starts winning because it's "too late" Enjoy the fact that they are getting it together after a complete overhaul of the secondary, a reshuffling of the o-line, and are getting some more consistent play out of the QB.

We're all disappointed with the way the season has turned out so far, but we've also had some enthusiam rekindled with the last 2 games. If you wanna mope and bash, by all means, but don't expect people not to disagree with you...

 

[Orlandophinfan]

Interesting... The "atmosphere of losing," which already blew the season, was who's fault/responsibility?

This team has established a bad "trend" under Saban: Blow-out the season and then start showing up to play after its too late. That's not my idea of a "winning atmosphere."

The fact that the team has proven so much better than it demonstrated the first 7 games is a revealation of not being ready at the start of the season. I for one do not believe that's a recipe for winning football.

Really good coaches have their team ready to play, week in and week out.

So tell us, what would you have done different?
How would you have gotten them motivated?

 

[Funkymonks]

yea has nothing to do with the fact that we had huge roster changes this offseason and the preseason really isn't the time to get in sinc. you really need real game action to get in sinc.

 

[tyson22]

blame all the losses on him and give him no credit for the last 2 wins:shakeno: this is a terrible thread.

 

[djphinfan]

Coaching, motivating, and setting the bar high enough for a good start…

OK, so lets get back to reality. A few weeks ago at 1-6 this team was 100% Flounder and 0% Dolphin. Things were so embarrassing the Flounder was humiliated publicly by certain alums from the glory days for their “lack of heart.†Lo and behold, the Dolphins showed up with a sense of urgency multiplied by a “something to prove†chip on the dorsal fins.

Humm, let me see --- that sounds a lot like motivation. The lack of fire and motivation of the Flounder underscores the fact of how seriously underperforming and underachieving the Dolphin’s have been. And lets see, who is in charge of the teams motivational needs? Could it be Saban?

Bingo! So before everyone starts counting the leftovers from another lost season don’t forget where the responsibility lies for the atrocious performance over the first 7 games.

Wake up call. It’s too late to start playing Dolphin football when the Flounder blew out half the season! Now watch this team win just enough to knock itself out of the Sashimi grade section of the draft!

by the end of the year your flounders will be a superfast,aggressive,intelligent mammal

 

[finner]

Credit and Responsibility

I give credit to the players for having the pride to show-up and play winning football, as opposed to the lack-luster, unmotivated effort of the first 7 weeks. And I hold the head coach 100% responsible for the product on the field --- along with the choices of who starts, what the game plan is, the execution, the play calling etc.

It’s good to see the potential of this team is greater than what looked to be a 1-16 or 2-14 or 3-13 season record. But, on the other hand, finishing 7-9, or 8-8, or 9-7 is still no step forward from last year --- and the roster is aging fast and in need of significant retooling, so being a middle of the pack team is no great prize on all fronts.

The responsibility is not on me, as a fan, to prove what I would do to make this team better --- that’s Saban’s responsibility. And it’s certainly my right as a fan to question why this team is so up and down under Saban’s rule. Furthermore, motivation is a huge factor in the NFL, and so far it seems (based on the product on the field) Saban is not doing a stellar job in this department.

Bottom line, the proof is in the pudding. If this team continues it’s manic-depressive ways under Saban, then I fully expect him to be held accountable for the inconsistent performance.

 

[cljh19]

motivation? how in the world can u blame a coach for lack of motivation? im sorry but i blame a player if they are not motivated to play some football and win. i play alot of backyard football and as soon as i hear about playing im fully motivated to go out there and kick some a$$, i dont need a coach. plus hell i dont even get paid. nfl players get paid millions to go out every sunday and kick some a$$. money or not if u love the game of football every player is fully motivated.

the players that cant get motivated without a coach need to see the door. i dont care if thats zach thomas, jason taylor, ronnie brown, or the GREAT dan marino. they can pack their belongings and go.

 

[SoDakDolfan]

I give credit to the players for having the pride to show-up and play winning football, as opposed to the lack-luster, unmotivated effort of the first 7 weeks. And I hold the head coach 100% responsible for the product on the field --- along with the choices of who starts, what the game plan is, the , the play calling etc.

It makes no sense to give credit to the players for a win and the coach 'credit' for the losses. You say the player's pride is responsible for the wins. Where was the player's pride when they were losing? Get off your high horse. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

 

[muscle979]

I give credit to the players for having the pride to show-up and play winning football, as opposed to the lack-luster, unmotivated effort of the first 7 weeks. And I hold the head coach 100% responsible for the product on the field --- along with the choices of who starts, what the game plan is, the execution, the play calling etc.

It’s good to see the potential of this team is greater than what looked to be a 1-16 or 2-14 or 3-13 season record. But, on the other hand, finishing 7-9, or 8-8, or 9-7 is still no step forward from last year --- and the roster is aging fast and in need of significant retooling, so being a middle of the pack team is no great prize on all fronts.

The responsibility is not on me, as a fan, to prove what I would do to make this team better --- that’s Saban’s responsibility. And it’s certainly my right as a fan to question why this team is so up and down under Saban’s rule. Furthermore, motivation is a huge factor in the NFL, and so far it seems (based on the product on the field) Saban is not doing a stellar job in this department.

Bottom line, the proof is in the pudding. If this team continues it’s manic-depressive ways under Saban, then I fully expect him to be held accountable for the inconsistent performance.

Tampafinfan is that you? I was wondering if any of these fire Saban threads that we saw every week would keep going.

 

[hellsapoppin]

I give credit to the players for having the pride to show-up and play winning football, as opposed to the lack-luster, unmotivated effort of the first 7 weeks. And I hold the head coach 100% responsible for the product on the field --- along with the choices of who starts, what the game plan is, the execution, the play calling etc.

It’s good to see the potential of this team is greater than what looked to be a 1-16 or 2-14 or 3-13 season record. But, on the other hand, finishing 7-9, or 8-8, or 9-7 is still no step forward from last year --- and the roster is aging fast and in need of significant retooling, so being a middle of the pack team is no great prize on all fronts.

The responsibility is not on me, as a fan, to prove what I would do to make this team better --- that’s Saban’s responsibility. And it’s certainly my right as a fan to question why this team is so up and down under Saban’s rule. Furthermore, motivation is a huge factor in the NFL, and so far it seems (based on the product on the field) Saban is not doing a stellar job in this department.

Bottom line, the proof is in the pudding. If this team continues it’s manic-depressive ways under Saban, then I fully expect him to be held accountable for the inconsistent performance.

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